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I know you don't have anything to do with the scheduling, but how did you luck out being San Diego for Thanksgiving and we get three to four inches of snow here in Iowa?

Just luck to the dry, I guess.

You get pretty lucky with those tournaments.

Everybody kind of travels around to go and play some in some Thanksgiving tournament.

So I was fortunate enough to be in San Diego.

It wasn't super warm, but it was it was nice weather.

I enjoyed my time out there for sure.

So on those Thanksgiving tournaments, you have a preference as to where you like to go.

I mean, San Diego not withstanding, I guess.

Well, like, I like San Diego.

Realistically, we don't have a lot of downtime.

We're usually pretty busy.

But, you know, I think anywhere, you know, warm and tropical, like, as you know, it's starting to get cold here in Iowa.

So anytime we can kind of, you know, go out and be somewhere warmer where you don't have to wear long sleeves and a coat every time you go outside is ideal.

Albany, you mentioned it in our first episode.

It's lake effect snow, right?

Uh-huh.

Was there a time that you were expected to shovel the driveway when you were younger?

Uh, yeah.

Very, yeah.

Very often we were always very, very ready and able to shovel the driveway.

How do you decide between you and Connor who has to go out there and shovel the driveway?

I mean, is it a one-on-one or what are you guys doing?

No, we'd all do it.

We'd all do it.

Like for everybody down to my dad, so it would be quick.

Like me, Connor, my dad, like it was quick.

My sister, like we'd be good.

So now that you're in Iowa and you don't have the lake effect snow as much snow at least, not out there shoveling as many driveways now?

No, not as

much.

So on the last episode, we talked about the energy of the ball.

And in the Oklahoma game, what can you tell me about the energy that day?

Yeah, you know, I mean, we didn't make shots.

We didn't play well.

You know, you're going to play 35 games.

Some of them are going to suck.

You're just you're just going to have stinkers.

I think we're a better shooting team than that.

And I think, you know, we made more threes the next game.

So that's that's better.

I'm glad we had just the next day to go redeem ourselves.

But yeah, you know, it was just one of those days.

I think we got decent looks.

weren't going in.

And it is what it is.

You can't get too upset about stuff like that.

You know, if you're taking good shots, that's that's all you can do.

And then the rest of it takes care of itself.

Does the neutral site help or hurt you or the other team?

Obviously, you're not playing in your home environment, right?

That you work out in all summer, you practice in all fall.

It's not the same, but neither are they.

So, you know, it's just kind of like that you're both at some sort of

Different a different situation.

It's just different.

Um, I don't I don't want to say it's better or worse But you know, it's just kind of stuff that you you have to adapt It's just gonna be the way it is and in these games not ever you can't play every game at home and you just you have to adapt and you have to Play well no matter what environment you're in

when you see a team twice a year like you do in conference play But when you're playing a team just once is there any communication between you and your opponent?

Um Not really no

Um, maybe if you're, maybe if there's a little bit of a smack talk or something, but other than that, not really the big 10, you don't talk a ton of trash in the big 10, only if there's like some sort of rivalry or there's like, you know, kind of been a previous incident or something half specific happens, whatever, then things might get a little chippy, but like for the most part throughout the big 10, most there's, there's a mutual respect.

We all know how, how good the league is.

But in these games, you know, it's just kind of like, I would say most of our games in general, it's just kind of like.

Unless something happens, unless some guy on their team is talking too much, unless some guy on our team is talking too much, you don't really say too much.

Where do you learn your trash talk from?

I've been playing basketball for a while.

You know, you're just around it for an extended period of time, been in a lot of situations that...

you need to speak up can never back down from anybody and you know got to stand up for yourself and for your teammates so that's just kind of the way I see it uh so I think it was helpful you know growing up with two brothers and you know in a competitive environment you kind of learn how to you know stand up for yourself that's probably where I got a lot of it from was just you know the the competitive basketball environment as well as having you know brothers.

Do you go after their shot?

Do you go after their team?

depends on the person.

Every person is different.

Every situation is different.

Sometimes it'll be about their team.

If they're not very good, then you point that out.

If they're not very good, the person individually, then you could point that out.

There's a lot of different ways you could go.

I'm not the type of guy that's going to go out there and outwardly start trying to rip everybody a new one.

That's not really...

who i am like it's like you know what there's enough that you need to focus on in the game i don't need to create another uh you know avenue for distraction but at the end of the day you have to stand up for yourself and if they talk too much you can't let it slide so uh it just it all depends on who who is saying what and you know what team and all that kind of stuff it just varies depending on situation

shifting more to a positive light

I have to give credit to the team that is taking photos of the Iowa basketball team while you guys were out on the road.

Some great shots of not only you on the plane itself, but some shots that you had made, a dunk that you had made.

Can you talk to me a little bit about that team and your interaction with them?

Yeah, you know that we always have a video guy and a photographer travel with us on every road trip.

So, you know, they're great.

You have strong relationships with them.

You know, you're around them a lot.

And they kind of see, you know, what it's like in the day to day, like they come to practice.

Maybe not they don't come to every practice, but they come to a lot of them and they kind of know like, all right, like what goes into this, they'll be with us in the weight room at certain times and all that kind of stuff.

So there's just a respect there.

And, you know, guys, like, like the pictures and all that stuff is part of what makes it really cool, you know, part of what, you know, kind of creates memories.

You see guys sometimes posing for the camera in certain spots of dead time.

And so, you know, that's cool.

And I think that's a mutually beneficial relationship.

But, you know, our video people and picture people are all great.

Our creative team is wonderful.

I really appreciate all of them.

Obviously, this might be my fifth year here.

I've gotten to know a lot of them really well.

I enjoy that they are able to travel with us and do all that cool stuff.

What are some of your favorite photos that you've seen?

I would say a lot of like just like the personality photos right like because like the game photos are gonna be like you know just the way you play it's they are what they are but I think you know the personality photos are cool if you see certain guys you know goofing off or certain guys you know being super blogged in like just like photos of like stuff that we're doing when we're not playing like photos even like of guys on the bench like you know the end of our bench like going crazy during the game I think all that stuff is is like the cool part of all that.

Do you remember what you're thinking in the moment for the game shots?

Or does it trigger a memory?

Or is it just like, wow, that's me, but I don't remember what I was thinking at that moment.

it depends on the picture but yeah you know it definitely will be like oh yeah i remember that like i remember you know that specific moment it's cool that they were able to get this angle all that kind of stuff and maybe you don't remember that specific moment but you remember the game as a whole like you remember like and it brings you back kind of those moments like if you're like scrolling through your camera roll or something and you stumble upon a fun game that

took place like two years ago you're like wow man like that was really fun like we won like it was great you know I miss those teammates because obviously you know teammates change every year so it's like you know like oh man like I really miss playing with Connor and Phillip and Chris and Keegan and Jordan and all those guys so you know I think that's part of the just just kind of the way you look at it and you know I'm really appreciative that we have those opportunities.

If you had three photos that you're gonna keep up on your wall in perpetuity

Which three photos are you gonna have either of yourself or of your teams?

I would say the first one's an easy one, the Big Ten Championship photo.

That one's kind of a no-brainer.

Other ones that I really like are ones where it'll be in a moment of dead time and it'll be the five players on the court.

just kind of you know whether we're communicating over something like like we're huddled up on the court just us or like like kind of those isolated moments right before you're about to go to battle i think those pictures are really cool the the starting lineup pictures i think are always really cool because you know it's kind of the calm before the storm uh you know before everything starts to get crazy it's kind of the last moment where everything you know is a little bit relaxed so i'd say those ones are all pretty cool

do you think your best photo for this season hasn't been taken yet

um

Yeah, I hope not.

I hope there's a lot more good moments to come.

I hope there's a lot of other stuff that we get to celebrate and have fun with.

Well, and I'm thinking this, you and your dad celebrating together on the court, one of your final games, or the final game, I feel like that's going to be a really good photo for you.

That'll be a great photo.

Yeah.

And then, you know, like another photo that stands out is like when we beat Iowa State last year for his 500th win.

Like, you know, it's me and Connor and my mom and everybody on the floor, my brother, my sister, everything.

It was great.

Those photos are obviously priceless.

One more thing before we get into the double-double dumbass.

Quite a few freshmen on the team this year.

I'd like to introduce our audience to them through you.

Have you kind of provided your perspective on these guys?

Let's start with Owen Freeman.

Number 32, 6'10 out of Moline, Illinois.

Tell me what your thoughts are on Owen Freeman.

Very, very talented, very, very good.

He was one that kind of stood out right away.

Because freshman, it's tricky.

Everybody develops at their own pace.

Everybody adapts in their own specific way.

Owen was one of those guys that he was ready to go.

You could tell that he was going to be an important part of our team moving forward throughout this year.

He's an incredibly talented player, obviously.

He's a wonderful, wonderful guy.

I think I tell him all the time, I think he's too nice.

I think I need to think he needs to be a little meaner.

Like, hey, dude, like, come on, like, you know, and so I think I think that's kind of a message that I've really honed in on with him is, you know, like, be a little meaner, like, you know, play with little prick in you, like all that kind of stuff.

He's just going to continue to get better every single day.

And I'm really excited for his future here.

As a freshman, and you've dealt with this, what's the biggest hurdle you have to overcome as a player?

there's a couple so you could go with like there's an on the court element there's an off the court element off the court element is just time management you know like you're just you're busy all day and so it's kind of like you get overwhelmed right it's all new stuff like your class schedule is new you're not just like walking from class to class in high school like no you're going across campus you got to catch a bus you got a scooter over there whatever you got to do to you know make your class and you got to do your study hour and so it's like you're busy from

the morning until night.

You're busy because we got practice there in the afternoon.

So there's just a lot of time commitment in it.

And, you know, obviously it's something that you're enduring physically that you haven't before.

So you're much more tired than you ever have been.

You're kind of learning and growing about how to adapt and go through that.

So kind of all of those elements together can make it tricky.

But I think, you know, the on the court element that is the hardest part is just the overall speed and just athleticism of the guys.

They're bigger, stronger, faster.

Every single player we play against is bigger, stronger, faster than most of the guys they played against last year, if not all of them.

It's a it's a big difference than high school.

So in that sense, so I think, you know, those are probably the main things.

Also, just kind of the way you have to think the game is just different.

And yeah, it's just there's a certain ways that you need to be able to adapt.

And our freshmen all have done a really wonderful job.

Is it odd to have as many freshmen on the roster as the team does right at the moment?

I think you would say it's odd for other college basketball teams not for us necessarily because I think we're not like one of those teams just going to revamp with you know the portal and all that kind of stuff that's not really us that's not really I think the way that our coaches see how to you know develop a program um but I think that's the way we're going to continue to just with freshmen and you know that kind of build up and you have different your classes very right like I came in with

two other kids besides me and one of them was a walk on.

So it was just kind of a different element there.

These are four guys that like are going to play adding in the two new or the new transfers and the new walk ons to that we've added.

Like it's a different dynamic.

But yeah, it's it's different when there's more of them because if there's a smaller class.

It's easy for them to kind of, you know, play foul as a leader, right?

Like you just kind of do what the guy in front of you does, but when there's more freshmen and there's more, you know, kind of margin for error, there's just more, you can be influenced by other things.

So they, but they've all been really good.

Uh, I really am appreciative of them and, and they're, they're great.

And I'm excited for their futures here.

Big 10 freshmen of the week got them two straight times coming into this week.

You know, those accolades are obviously nice to see from the outside, but it has to mean something to him too.

Absolutely.

You know, you get a cool, like a little certificate sort of thing.

So that's cool.

And that's stuff that you can, you know, just cherish forever.

You know, I would Big Ten Freshman of the Week.

I think he's trying to go for more of the Big Ten Freshman of the Year, which I think he will, you know, if you keep winning Big Ten Freshman of the Week, it'd be hard for them to give Big Ten Freshman of the Year to somebody else if you continue to win Freshman of the Week.

So, you know, it's really cool, you know, that his college career started off that way.

And I'm really looking forward to his future here.

Well, thank you for that.

We'll continue to talk about the freshman of the Iowa program as we continue through the jock-to-jock podcast.

Double, double dumbass.

Nice.

0 and 6 start.

You're getting the schools right.

You're just flipping them around, Patrick.

I will tell you on one of these two stories, Tori Taylor got it right.

Okay.

A police chase in Glendale ended up in a porta potty.

After police attempted to pull over a driver in a hit and run, one of the suspects hid in a porta-potty on a golf course.

Golfer witnessed this and tipped over the porta-potty to help police apprehend the suspect.

The second story.

Another high-speed chase here.

This one, a guy robbed a K Jewelers and was being pursued by police on Interstate 65 in Boone County.

During the pursuit,

The suspect was seen waving his hand and yelling out the window.

What was he yelling?

May you ask?

It seems he was trying to explain that police were not supposed to be chasing him.

There's supposed to be a law that if it's too dangerous, they're supposed to back off.

That's it.

Yeah, the guy just knows his rights.

Yes.

So

your schools, my friends, to choose from are Indiana, Wisconsin, and Illinois in the double, double dumb ass.

OK, so first one.

I'm going to go Illinois.

This is just a gut feeling.

And then the second one, I'm going to go Indiana.

Both of those are just things that I think those just scream those states to me.

That's my final answer.

Flip them again.

Did I get them both wrong?

I have some good news.

I got one right.

You got one right.

You did not get the one right.

The Tory got right.

Nice.

Glendale, actually in Wisconsin, where the individual got tipped over in the porta potty.

Indiana is correct.

Interstate 65 Boone County is just outside of Indianapolis.

Nice.

Okay, I got one right.

So we're good.

I'm on the board.

One out of eight.

Yeah,

we're on the board.

It all starts by just getting one and then taking it from there.

Yep.

Tell us again about the podcast that you have with Peyton Sanford.

You know, it's a great opportunity.

We've kind of been lacking in the recording department here for the last couple of weeks.

You know, we're just super busy.

I think we're going to try to get an episode in sometime this week.

You know, it's just great.

You know, we have the opportunity a lot of the time to interview other, you know, Iowa athletes, Iowa coaches, et cetera.

I think, you know, now that we're in season, I think, you know, people just kind of want to hear what we have to say.

And so I think that's kind of what our episode this week will be about.

But yeah, you know, I'm excited, you know, continue working with Peyton.

He's obviously a good friend and it's been a lot of fun with him so far.

When you've sat in front of media and they ask you a bunch of name questions, kind of like this show, when you have to turn around and be the interviewer,

How does that work?

Yeah, you know, I think I don't try to look at it like like I'm a media person like because I'm not, you know I don't have a degree and all that kind of stuff I don't and I think when we had Caitlyn Clark on she kind of highlighted this it's just different when you're talking to kind of your friends that's kind of the way we look at it like I may not be super good friends with everybody we have on the show but like for the most part I have a pretty strong relationship with you know everybody we have on there and if I don't then Peyton does that's how we got them on the show so

It's kind of more of a peer-to-peer thing as opposed to kind of an interview.

So I think it gets our guests to relax a little bit and just kind of have fun with it.

And we get probably more real, just kind of overall better answers.

And I'm appreciative of that dialogue with everybody.

Patrick, again, thank you for the time.

Good luck in moving forward through the season as we're looking forward to big 10 plays on the way.

Absolutely.

Thanks, Brian.

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