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Jock 2 Jock · Tue Nov 21, 2023
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for joining us for the jock to jock podcast where we get a unique look at Iowa men's basketball from a player's perspective.
We'll be joined by Patrick McCaffrey after this from I'm on communications experience the I'm on difference.
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We're on the hardwood edition with Patrick McCaffrey.
Welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me,
Brian.
The season has officially begun.
You mentioned in the last show how you felt about the team in exhibition, but now it counts towards the record.
How you feeling after getting a couple of games underneath your belt?
Pretty good.
You know, I like our squad.
I like the way things have went so far, and I'm ready to kind of, you know, keep it rolling.
Do you look at exhibition any differently than you do games in season play?
Not really, no.
You know, we treat it, I think that's why you do it, right?
It's like a dress rehearsal.
Like, with our exhibition, everything's the exact same.
as it would be in a normal game.
Norse County reports the same, all that other stuff.
So if you're going to play one, I think that's the way you got to do it.
Spreading the ball around is obviously what every coach wants their team to do.
And that looked to happen in the North Dakota game where everybody's getting some points on the board.
To have that happen has to feel pretty good as a team.
Yeah, I mean, anytime you score 110 points, you feel pretty good about yourself.
Yeah, like you said, I think we had like six guys in double digits.
I think, you know, that can be something that's pretty common with us.
We got a lot of weapons.
And yeah, you know, like I said, anytime you score 110 points, that's got to count for something.
When you guys are in game, do you make adjustments on what your role is at that point?
Maybe it's you're feeding more than you are scoring.
More people are taking different shots.
I mean, how do you guys adjust in game?
Is that from a coaching standpoint or a player standpoint?
Um, so I guess the way from a coach's standpoint, they would do it as you just call plays for said player.
you know we play a pretty free-flowing motion offense and you know if you're open-shooted if you're not past it like obviously you know if guys get going try to find them you get on the ball but like I think you know the ball kind of a basketball guy in this way I think the ball has its own energy and you know it finds the person it's supposed to find like at that specific time I'm like I'm a weirdo in that way but I truly believe in that like you know the ball the ball goes where the ball is supposed to go
in a certain offensive setting, and sometimes we might shoot it too early, and I think those shots won't go in as high of a clip as if we move the ball, share the ball, and all that kind of
stuff.
Explaining it to somebody who's more of a layman, myself included, because, I mean, my basketball at any sort of level ended at, like, eighth, ninth grade.
The energy that you're talking about with the ball, what's the best way to describe that to them?
That's a really good question, and I'm gonna try to articulate it as best I can here.
Realistically, the way that I break it down is like the extra pass, the one more.
I think that I wish that there was like a stat, like around off-cold basketball, like what percentage you shoot it, like if you make the one more, as opposed to if you just shoot the first one.
I would say it's probably realistically like it's 55, 60% differential.
Like if you make that extra pass, like whatever team makes the extra pass, it goes in.
there's a lot that goes into that and I think the more teams move and share the ball the more the ball moves it doesn't stick everybody feels the flow everybody feels a part of the offense I think basketball is very unique in that sense that it's a flow thing like it's very you know like
free flowing.
And if you're not in the flow of the game, you might not feel comfortable shooting a specific shot.
But like, if you haven't touched the ball in seven possessions, you probably aren't going to shoot it on your next touch, or maybe you will, but it probably is less likely to go in.
So I think the more, you know, kind of in the game, you feel in tune with, you know, everything that's going on, I think the better your overall team morale is and the better you feel as an individual as well.
How'd I do?
Does that make any sense?
It does make sense.
Does the crowd help the energy of that ball?
Yes, I think when you have a good crowd, but you try to create your own energy, right?
Because you can't always rely on the crowd because you never know what it's going to be like.
But absolutely, you can kind of feel like there's certain times where somebody will shoot a big shot in the crowd.
Like if we have a sold out carver, you just hear the crowd.
be silent while the ball's in the air and it's like then it goes in and it erupts and if it misses and they're like oh and so like yes I think the ball definitely feels that I would be
There's no way to actually measure that, but I would be interested in the science behind that in terms of the sound and the voices and the impact that it has on whether or not the ball goes in or not.
There's no way to actually measure that.
But it would be interesting to see.
When you're on the road and you're up for free throws and the people behind the basket are trying to disrupt your vision and such like that,
i have to i look at that i go how the hell do you see what you're doing and shoot the basket or is it just muscle memory for you when you're shooting a free throw
yeah you rely on muscle memory i think is is kind of my main thing uh it's tricky though when they're screaming and yelling and everybody's got like waving their arms you know they got signs and all that you just just try not to look up there you look at the basket you lock in
and you just, you know, rely on your muscle memory and just, you know, really stick to your form and stick to your principles there.
But yeah, you're right.
It can get it can get crazy.
I'm sure you hear it when it's for you.
But when they're yelling against you when you're on the road, I've heard athletes say before, especially division one athletes, saying that I don't hear the crowd or I can zone into not hearing it.
How does that work?
Typically, even Homer where I hear noise, like I hear like the like, like whether it's loud or quiet, I don't
ever really hear what any specific person is saying unless it's like during a dead ball or something or somebody speaking directly to me you just kind of hear noise like you hear it in waves but they're so locked in kind of on the mission and what you're supposed to do that uh you don't necessarily tune into the specifics of what is being said like you know if somebody makes a shot and you're on the road and somebody and the other team makes a shot it erupts okay
That's going to happen.
You just run back down and you try to score.
And you try to make sure that doesn't happen again.
And if they're quiet on the road, means you're doing something right.
And if they're loud at home, means you're also doing something right.
So you kind of feed off those specific energies.
To that point, is that the importance of practicing and scouting teams ahead of each game?
Yeah, absolutely.
So you can be prepared and you can kind of figure out what's to come, as well as just really
Honing in on what you do, preparing yourself, like just in terms of, you know, like how we practice, how we play, how you work out, so you can really rely on kind of that muscle memory type stuff, like kind of stuff you do every single day, that you lean on that in those times of, you know, when it's loud and everything's crazy and you might get overwhelmed by specific things, you just really, you sit in there and you just rely on what you do every day.
What's the importance of the non-conference schedule to the team?
I mean, do some of these early teams help you to prepare for the Big Ten conference down the road?
Yeah, you know, you just kind of got to get some of the rest off, right?
And I mean, I by no means want to discredit any of the teams that are on our schedule or anything like that.
Because like you see every first couple nights in college basketball, you see a team lose to a team that
on paper they're probably not supposed to lose too.
So I want to get that out of the way.
I'm not discrediting anybody but you're still trying to find yourself as a team which is why some of these early season losses like maybe for certain teams it is because just kind of shows they're not any good but like in other cases you know it's not the end of the world if you lose to certain teams because you know like a lot they give scholarships too and they're good players so I would never discredit any lower mid-major program but you know it's just kind of
It's just a way to, you know, continue to grow as a unit for your team, specifically play in front of a crowd, get used to just kind of how the game flows because it's different from a practice, right?
Rarely in practice.
So you're doing 20 to 20 minute halves with media timeouts and all that kind of stuff.
Our practices are segmented differently, typically.
So, you know, it's, and I would say probably most other schools are the same way, but I think for the most part, you know, you really try to
um figure out kind of the flow of the game and understand you know how do we call plays how do we do this that how do we change defenses how what are we in all that kind of stuff is what you really hone in on and you try to you know kind of put it together in these early games so that late in the season you don't have those problems
tied back to the crowds and such like that midweek games quite a few Tuesdays and there's a Thursday there's a Wednesday game here in the month of November midweek games like that how do you feel about those
I think in the non-conference you just kind of schedule those games when it works and that's fine.
I wish maybe in conference we like had set days where we played like what in the Big Ten you play every day of the week.
And in other conferences it's not really like that.
Every conference you always play Saturday and I think the Big Ten is trending more towards Saturday games.
Which I think Saturday home games I think are the lifeblood of college basketball I think those are like that's that's that's when Carver really gets going to Saturday home games.
They're
awesome every team and other comp they always play Saturday games and We don't always which I mean I guess that means we get to have time to watch the Saturday games But we'll play seven nights a week in our big 10 schedule, which you know I understand you might not be able to play the same two days every week, but
Maybe sometime I wish there was a little bit more consistency
there,
but I don't I don't think it's not the end of the world But uh, yeah the midweek games they can be a little weird, but you know what?
We're basketball players you show up and you play so I think at the end of the day You know we'll play anybody anytime anywhere.
So that's kind of the way it is
when you're running seven days a week How does it mess with you when you're trying to do not just basketball, but also I don't know be a student too
It's tricky, you know because there's times when you're traveling
Typically if you really want to find time you can find time like like there's 24 hours in a day It might mess with your sleep a little bit like and it depends on how much schoolwork you have but really the the main problem I think that it is like Okay, like we just had practice for three and a half hours like I was at the gym doing stuff all day very locked in on whatever we were locked in on You get home and you don't really want to type that four-page paper
or
whatever it is like is that's kind of that was kind of my problem is like
Like now I'm home and it's like I have this homework to do but it's like I just want to go to sleep.
I
don't
really want it like I'm pretty worn out.
You just kind of have to find time to you know handle your assignments and take care of your business.
For those that are in different majors sometimes they're you know a little bit harder class schedule that has to be difficult on those individuals I would assume.
Absolutely.
Yes.
I don't think I would put myself in that category, uh, not to discredit, you know, my major, anybody who has my major, I don't know if I put myself in that category, but, and there's certain majors that like realistically you just can't do.
Like if you're a student athlete, like probably not going to be able to do pre-med, like if
you're a
student, probably not going to be able to do it.
And if you do, like that's really freaking impressive because, you know, there's just a lot of stuff that goes into that and a lot of different.
Things and you know just time that you don't necessarily have more credit to those people who are able to accomplish that stuff But like it's just it's it's tricky
I wonder but when you're in a class with some others and obviously you're on television and part of a d1 team Yourself or any of the other athletes do they approach you they talk about the games?
Do they bug you or you kind of just just another one of them?
It depends
Typically right away that that's something that will happen, but I think People will see very early on you know like we're okay.
We play on TV a couple nights a week Doesn't mean that I'm not a normal human being and I think you know like and I think that They are quick to pick up on that you know like okay like these guys like it's very normal like if you speak to me I'm gonna speak back like I'm not gonna I'll never big time anybody like I'm not gonna ever be mean like you know you speak to me I'll talk to you like
And if you want to ask about the team, I'll
say
something.
I don't really want to talk about the team in my old off time.
I think about the team and talk about the team enough.
You ask me about something, though, I'll answer.
I'm never going to be mean about anything.
I'm always going to be respectful of everybody else as long as you're respectful of me.
So yeah, I would prefer it if they didn't necessarily know who I was.
And they just kind of talk to me normally.
But some people, like a lot will.
Most people bring it up and that's that's fine.
It is what it is.
And it comes with the territory and, you know, I've never met anybody that was disrespectful.
So as long as it's that way, there's no problem with it.
Do you know the name Garrett Johnson?
Yes, I do.
I saw that story.
It's impressive.
It's unbelievable.
It's incredible.
Just kind of a little cliff notes here.
He's a forward from George Washington University and scored 21 points in his debut.
last year withdrew from the school after a rare benign tumor in his hip, had nine rounds of chemo that ended six months ago.
Are you comfortable in talking a little bit about some of your health issues that you had dealt with?
Yes, so mine were different obviously because I was younger and my tumor was in my neck, it wasn't in my hip, but you know when you hear that word tumor and you hear the word cancer, it's obviously very, you know,
It's
a very scary
word, realistically.
You know, it's scary.
I was scared out of my mind.
And I'm sure he was too, because when you hear cancer, you think death.
And that's just kind of the first thing that comes to mind, or hard battle.
Like, it's kind of what you hear.
So, you know, you just kind of always got to stay positive.
And there's some dark days, man, and I'm sure he went through it.
You know, it's not easy if he, like, literally, he goes to school to play.
And then all of a sudden now he's got to do chemo and he's in the hospital and all that kind of stuff.
Like his teammates are playing and I'm sure he's very happy for his teammates, but like he wants to be out there.
And that's not a good feeling for anybody.
But you know, he stayed the course and it's so cool.
I don't know Garrett personally, but that's a really cool story.
And I was really happy when I saw that and it was something that I, you know, it was just awesome.
Do you have to take extra precaution at all because of the situation?
so long ago
yeah you know i stopped checkups and all that kind of stuff i see my doctors now it's become since i haven't had any uh up to this point i don't know what any like scares um like like recently like or any kind of like flare ups or anything like that i've been pretty clean ever since you know i had all my uh stuff um
my meetings become less and less frequent every year.
There were, it was like every two months, every four months, every six months.
And
now it's just once a year where I have to check up with my doctor and I'll have like several appointments that I have to do once a year.
Typically right when school starts is when I knock those out.
But to make sure everything's all good.
And then, you know, then there's certain stuff that I have to do.
Like I take meds every single day, like for it.
And there's all this different stuff.
And, you know, I'm probably
More tired than most other students and I wear down In a different way just because I'm missing a vital organ in your body But you know it it is what it is and I made my choice to continue You know play basketball and all that kind of stuff and I wouldn't I would never want it to be any other way
Is there any one piece of advice that you had received during that time frame that you still kind of lean on today?
Um, yeah, there was a lot, you know, it's just kind of I can't really think back to any specific piece but I would I would say you know just kind of
It's a marathon.
It's kind of something that always reverts back to me.
It's not going to be solved in one day.
It's just not.
It's going to take time.
It's going to take diligent work on specific aspects.
And
you need
to give your body time to heal and time to rest.
So I would say it's not a marathon.
Stay with it.
Stay the course.
And it'll all take care of itself.
Patrick, thank you for sharing your story on that.
I really appreciate it.
Absolutely.
So let's get to the double-double-dumbass.
This is why we're
gonna...
Yes, I gotta redeem myself for the last time.
So far for the season, you've had the schools right just in a reversed order, so it is an 0-4 start.
Your prediction on the first episode was that you were gonna hit 19 of 28.
So I have two stories today, and to refresh, these are gonna be from states that have Big Ten schools
At the end of each of the stories, I will give you the three schools.
Two of the schools or two of the states would be active in this.
Okay?
Yes.
Here we go.
First story.
A hotel valet was supposed to park an Audi RS7.
The valet at the upscale Waterfront Pendry Hotel took the car to a nearby convenience store for a car meet.
At that location, the valet was carjacked.
The Audi was eventually recovered by police and it was severely damaged.
Front suspension gone, doors couldn't even open.
Second story.
Police chief had just finished up a press conference with Mayor Cavalier Johnson.
After the presser, the chief was stopped at a red light and a dump truck heading in the same direction seemed like it was slowing for the red light but rear-ended the chief's vehicle after changing lanes at the last moment.
A statement from the department said it was cruelly coincidental that this took place immediately following our news conference.
on reckless driving.
Where do you find these?
It's amazing.
I just did
Google insane stories.
Some of them.
So the three schools for today's double, double dumb ass.
Are they a first story, second story?
Are they Wisconsin, Northwestern or Maryland?
Remember, one of these schools will not be active in the double, double dumb ass.
Walk me through your thought process.
I'm going to go number one.
Waterfront hotel when I hear waterfront I hear Wisconsin because we always stay on a big lake So that's kind of that's that's where I'm leaning there.
So I think number one.
I'm gonna lock in Wisconsin.
Okay, and then number two Cavalier.
See I could cheat and just go Google Cavalier Johnson.
I'm not gonna do that It was Northwestern.
What was the other one Maryland?
Yeah, Wisconsin Northwestern Maryland or your three choices you've locked in Wisconsin for number one.
Is that right?
Yep, yeah, and then and I want you know what I want Maryland for number for number two.
I want Maryland I think That like last week there was a crazy one from the state of Illinois and I and you know that I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go Maryland this week I just got feeling
so the hotel valet Wisconsin police chief being rear-ended by a dump truck Maryland.
Yep final answer.
Yep You are three for three on reversing them.
Are you kidding me?
I am not kidding you.
The first one, the Pendry Hotel is in Baltimore, Maryland, and the police chief with Mayor Cavalier Johnson, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Oh.
I get the schools right every time.
You do.
You do.
And I told Tory Taylor this, and he goes, well, now he knows how I felt starting off.
I'm 0 for 6.
0 for 6.
You've got the schools.
I feel like I should give you a point for that, but...
It's not the way the game works.
No.
No, I'm sorry, my friend.
Tell me again, 2Ps on a pod.
Your podcast that you have with Peyton Sanford, right?
Yep.
Talk to me about who you've got here recently.
We just had Peyton's brother Price on.
And that was obviously really funny with just with the brother dynamic.
And our episodes, we're going to try to keep it pretty consistent.
It's kind of much harder when we start playing games and stuff.
Our schedules get crazy.
So we're going to try to
get an episode here soon.
We don't really, realistically, we don't know who the guest is until about right before.
It's where we can get at that specific time, so stay tuned.
We got a lot, we got some stuff coming on the way, and I'm excited.
We might just do a couple of episodes, just Peyton and I, just kind of recapping, you know, the season, talk about what's going on.
But yeah, you know, I'm excited to, you know, keep it moving, and Estela was really helpful with us there, and they did a great job.
You guys ever record on the road or is it always at the studio?
No, always at the studio.
I want to try to be able to do some stuff on the road, but we don't have a lot of downtime.
We're very locked in with all that kind of stuff, so it would be difficult, but it would be cool.
But it's just tough.
Would you ever have your dad on the show?
I had him on with Connor.
I haven't had him on yet with Peyton.
He was our first episode in the studio with Connor.
So maybe, maybe, maybe Peyton and I could have him on again to make another appearance.
I know he'd come on.
He's been dying.
Come
on.
Connor had told me last year that your dad is a huge Springsteen fan and he controls the radio very quickly.
So if he doesn't like something, he will change it.
I wonder how he would be inside the studio with you and Peyton.
Yeah.
You know, you got to be very particular with the questions you've asked.
You ask him.
You can't ask him anything insane because he's not going to say anything.
Okay.
But I think Peyton and I would, we'd have fun with it and he'd be good with us.
So if we can't ask him anything insane, we've kind of rolled him out for the jock to jock podcast then.
You know what?
I don't know if this would be his scene.
I don't know how he would fare in the double, double, double.
I will keep that in mind.
I appreciate the time and good luck for the remainder of this week.
And thanks again for being on the jock to jock podcast.
Absolutely.
Thanks, Brian.
