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Jock 2 Jock · Tue Nov 7, 2023
Thanks for joining us for the jock to jock podcast where we get a unique look at Iowa men's basketball from a player's perspective.
We'll be joined by Patrick McCaffrey after this from I'm on communications experience the I'm on difference.
Welcome aboard.
I'm Brian Marshall from the Rockwell 08 morning show.
The Jock to Jock podcast actually started a couple of years ago and started with Iowa men's basketball.
Jordan Bohana was our featured guest.
Season two started with coach McCaffrey's son, Connor McCaffrey.
And Connor provided a unique perspective, not only from a player perspective, but being the son of a coach.
For season three, it's fun to have on his brother,
Patrick McCaffrey, welcome to the jock to jock podcast.
Thanks for having me, Brian.
It's great to be here.
We're going to talk more about your brother in a moment.
But what can you tell me about being around and being a part of the team that won the Big 10 championship in 2022?
What did that mean to you?
Man, a lot.
You know, it's a whirlwind of emotions because you win four games in four days.
And then, you know, but there's nothing quite like cutting the nets down and holding up your trophy and all that right after you win.
So it's a
You compete to win a big 10 championship that we work so hard for.
It's what we want to do.
And so, you know, when we had the opportunity to do that, we won.
It was a feeling I'll never forget.
And it was a moment that always cherished with my teammates.
You have seniors that leave like Jordan goes.
And then last season, your brother, it's his senior season.
How do dynamics of the team change year over year when you're the guy that's left behind and trying to figure out how do we keep things
Going from where we had last year.
How do we keep the momentum going
when Jordan left?
We lost Jordan and Keegan so two significant departures obviously, but we still kept a lot of the same group We only had two new guys like we like we had was to Philip was back Chris was back Connor was back.
I was back Aaron was back Tony all those guys that were played a big part in that we're all still here So that was something that you know, um, I think that it was able to you know, we were able to
hold strong carryover in that sense.
This year would be a different story because we lost Connor, Chris, Phillip, you know, a lot of those guys.
So it's a new team.
We have six, seven.
I think if you count our two new walk-ons that we just had, I think we have eight new players, which is crazy.
So it's just a lot of new guys.
So you just kind of, you know, try to uphold the standard that the guys before you have set, you know, with how you do things, how you approach, you know, scanner reports, how you approach practice every day, how you approach.
workouts before or after practice, how you approach the weight room, how you approach all of those different things.
I think you try to lead it by example.
And if they need a little bit more guidance, you, you provide that for them.
And, uh, you know, you just kind of let them know the way that we do things here.
And, uh, you just kind of ride with it and, and, and just kind of keep holding them to that standard.
With the jock to jock podcast, we obviously will talk a lot about the basketball, but I also like to include some things that are off the court.
And I want to know a little bit more about you.
So in March of 2010,
Your family moves to Iowa.
What do you remember about your first impressions about the state and the university the first time you got a chance to see it?
I just kind of want to preface it with I loved Albany.
I loved Albany.
I did not want to leave.
Like I like my school.
I like my friends.
You know, the team was really good, which is why he ended up getting the job here.
So I just want to preface it with I loved Albany.
So I was
Pissed.
Right, right.
I was so angry that we moved here and obviously I've grown to love Iowa.
It's my home.
Like I've lived here now for I think going on.
This is my 15th year ish, 14th year, something like that.
So I love Iowa, but like I was very upset when I first moved here.
I realistically, I didn't know much about Iowa at all.
You know, the Midwest, I thought it was going to be a lot of cornfields.
I knew the team wasn't very good when we got here.
So that was obviously frustrating.
I was also very young and naive.
So it was very easily impressionable.
So it's like, it didn't take much to get me to start to like the state.
I missed Albany for a long time and I still will forever love Albany.
But definitely had some, you know, interesting reactions when we first moved to Iowa.
I know I refused to get on the plane.
Like I was mad at my dad.
Like I didn't speak for like three days.
Like it was, it was, it was bad.
Like it was, we were not happy.
How old were you at the time that you moved then?
10.
Were you playing basketball at the age of
10?
Yep.
So like, luckily I was able to kind of, like we, I didn't move to Iowa until like that August.
So he got the job in, in like March.
So I got to stay in Albany and finish out the summer, you know, playing basketball, hanging out with my friends, like all that kind of stuff, like that kind of transition period.
Use today's brain versus your 10 year old brain.
How does the style of play differ in the Midwest?
Versus where you were playing in Albany.
I think realistically what it comes down to is there's just more players like out like I like where I was at before There's just more guys who play And just more probably a higher volume of better players just because of population like there's just more people in the state of New York So like we played a lot of guys from New York City play a lot of guys from you know upstate like
So there's just more people like not saying the players in Iowa are bad.
Obviously I take a lot of pride in, you know, being your basketball player from the state of Iowa, but like it's just, there's just more people.
So you're going to have more good players.
It's just kind of math in that sense.
New York, obviously very flashy state, right?
You got like the New York point guards, guys that are very flashy.
That's kind of more New York City, not necessarily upstate.
I would say upstate is probably more, is probably more similar to Iowa in terms of, you know, like got guys that, you know, play the right way, do the right thing.
And that's kind of why my my teams and I have always been successful is because we always played hard played right the right way did the right thing so And that was kind of more of an upstate New York thing But you start a lot of really good players really flashy players and you know just kind of bigger stronger athletes That you just see on a more regular basis But you know I think both both brands of basketball are good and a lot of good players have came from both areas
We're fast-forwarding a couple of years here.
When did you start thinking all right?
I think I'm going to play for Iowa.
Well, so it was never, it wasn't necessarily I'm going to play for Iowa, but like it was, I'm going to play for my dad.
Like I want to be one of my dad's players.
Um, and that started very early on.
Ever since, as I could remember, my, my goals always were, you know, I'm going to play for my dad and I'm going to play in the NBA.
That was always, that was just kind of like, all right, you up in that, and it's that easy.
That's just what's going to happen with me.
So, you know, like for as long as I can remember, that's kind of been my mindset.
So, you know, obviously being able to play for my dad.
is the dream come true.
The professional level is still, you know, I'm not going to say unattainable.
It just depends on how everything goes.
But there's a lot to, you know, work on there.
But yeah, playing for my dad's been a dream come true.
But it was, it ever, as long as I could remember that like ever since I started liking basketball, that was kind of the decision that I made.
I asked your brother last season, how difficult is it to separate coach versus dad?
Um, it's.
It can be difficult, but I think that we have it.
I think that Connor and I and my dad have a very good balance.
I think that there's sometimes where you can see it in different aspects.
Some coaches who coach their sons, they're just relentless on them, just very, very hard on them, unfairly hard on them, uncomfortably, where it's uncomfortable for the rest of the team, how hard they are on them.
But then there's also guys who let their sons just kind of roam free and do whatever the hell they want And I think you know my dad has really found like a good middle ground there You know where he just kind of he really kind of and I both feel the same way he treats us like every other player
which is the way that we would want like I wouldn't want it any other way that's how I want to be treated I want to be treated the same way he would treat any other any other one of my teammates and that's the way that they that's the way he's done it that's the way the rest of our systems have done it like I don't want our assistants to be afraid you know get on me or say things to me because of my dad and and trust me they're not so so you know it's just kind of one of those things where uh that he's found a really good balance
And I just want to be treated like every other player.
And that's the way they've done it.
And I really appreciate that.
And it's been good for me.
You mentioned internally, it seems that there's the balance.
But from the outside, the Hawkeye faithful, what kind of pressure do you think is put upon you because you're the coach's son?
Yeah.
I mean, you'll never be able to please them.
I'll never be able to outgrow the, like, oh, you only play because you're dad.
I think I've outgrown that in most of our reasonable fans' eyes.
I think most of our reasonable fans and people that just aren't looking to start arguments, no one understand the value that I bring and that I've been a good player in the Big 10 for going on now in my fourth year.
And the same thing goes for Conor.
I think a lot of people saw the value that
he brings.
So that's one part of it.
But like that, just kind of like vocal minority, I don't think we'll ever be able to outgrow that.
I think the only way I can outgrow that is, you know, being like a first team All-American, but it's still probably not.
Realistically, still probably also people complain.
So, you know, it's just kind of one of those things where people are ignorant, like there's always going to be an ignorant minority that just wants to speak on things.
But at the end of the day, you just kind of know like they're not right.
I know that most of the Iowa fans are very supportive, very passionate and understand that I belong.
In this day and age of social media, like you just touched on, you do get that vocal minority that obviously has never been in the position that you have been as a Division I athlete.
How do you block out?
How do you not cause it to be a distraction?
Do you just separate yourself from social media and
Not put yourself out there or how do you do that?
I took this approach kind of like mainly last year.
I'm not on Twitter.
I just I deleted the app off my phone like my accounts still exists, but like I do not go on it.
I've been on it a couple of times to talk about my podcast, but literally I will log on tweet about it and delete it like I don't read anything.
I don't like I don't want to read anything because it just like
Whether it's true or not, it still drains energy from you, right?
It takes energy to read it.
It takes energy to, you know, kind of like all that kind of stuff.
So it's just like, I just don't even want to look at it.
And I don't want to develop some sort of, you know, disdain or hatred for our fan base based on what they say.
Like, I don't want to deal with that.
So I just, I don't look at it.
And then like other, I don't have like a Facebook, but other platforms like Instagram, I like have my Instagram set up.
So like only people that I follow back can like.
Basically message me or comment on my stuff It's kind of the way I have it set up so I can't just get like random comments From like from crazy people like I don't I don't I just I just don't want to deal with that like I get held accountable enough You know by our coaches by the staff, you know in film sessions all that kind of stuff I came here because I trust them I came here because I believe in them to you know guide me in the right direction So I'm gonna listen to them.
I don't I don't need to listen to anybody else about that kind of stuff and you know if you're
If at the end of the day, if somebody's really important, they have my number.
So I can talk to them.
And so if they don't see me on a daily basis, they can just call me.
So that's the way I look at it.
Well, as we're wrapping up this first episode, one of the things I wanted to carry over from last year's jock to jock podcast is the game, the double, double dumb ass.
All right.
I read you two stories that involve people doing dumb things.
And these stories are from states that have big 10 schools.
So after I read the little headline, I'll give you three choices and you'll choose the school that matches the state that you think the story comes from,
okay?
Okay, I have a feeling I'm gonna be good at this game.
Okay, perfect.
Because these stories, as I'll read to you, and one thing I'm carrying over from the football podcast is that I'm gonna keep track of how you do throughout the season.
With 13, 14 episodes, we're looking at 26, 28 total points that you could get for the season.
I'd like to ask here in episode one,
out of the 26 or 28, what do you think you're gonna land on this one?
I would say, also is it multiple choice?
Multiple choice, yep.
I'll give you three different schools with two different stories.
So one of the schools I mentioned won't be active.
Gotcha.
I think I can get, so out of 28, I think I can get 19 to 20.
19 to 20, okay.
I remember Tori on our, we have something called Dumbass or Drongo.
Which is two stories he has to tell me where it's at whether it's in the US or in Australia and
then he
gets bonus points He at the beginning said he was gonna get them all right, and then he started off on kind of a kind of on the Schneid so Our first double-double dumbass on this season three jock-to-jock podcast a man recently robbed a bank and tried to flee with his 90 year old mother inside the car the woman was not associated with the crime and
had to take an Uber back home because her son couldn't drive her back to the house.
Second story, an auto business helped catch a criminal inside one of their vehicles by lifting the car high up in the air with a forklift.
Police were able to apprehend the criminal with little issue after the forklift lowered him into custody.
Which one of these stories or which one of these in the double double dumb ass is based in Northwestern, Ohio State or Penn State?
Northwestern Ohio State or Penn State.
So one of them, one of the three schools you just listed is not involved and two of them are.
Correct.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm going to say Ohio State and Penn State.
Okay.
So which one is going to be associated with which story?
Oh, see, I thought I thought I was going to
get away with that.
I'm going
to say Ohio.
I'll keep it in the same order.
I'm going to say Ohio State and Penn State.
Final answer?
Yes.
If you would have reversed them, you would have had it right.
Dang it!
The story of the man robbing the bank was in Pennsylvania, so that would have been your Penn State.
The auto business was in Ohio.
There's your Ohio State.
The thing is, I really believe that the forklift thing, that's a Pennsylvania thing.
That's what, that's in my mind.
That's what I thought.
We'll find out how Patrick does next week on the jock to jock podcast on the double double dumb ass.
We'll also talk a little bit more about the team and how they're shaping up here in this new season.
It's the jock to jock podcast sponsored by I'm on communications experience the I'm on difference.
