Jock 2 Jock Podcast featuring Connor McCaffery - "Air McCaffery"

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Number 30 from the Iowa basketball team, Connor McCaffrey.

Welcome back.

Glad to be back.

Let's do it again.

A road loss and then a road W. Does the W offset the feelings from the loss at that point?

Are you shaking it loose and saying, all right, well, they're in the number one team.

Will we just move on?

Or how does it feel going from Purdue to Minnesota?

I mean, kind of tale of two cities right there.

I would say like, to a certain extent, yes.

There's going to be

You know, the road dub helps with the road loss, but there's still things we can learn from both games, you know, playing.

Playing at Purdue, I mean, yes, they were the number one team in the country, but we still didn't feel like we played very well.

We did not take care of the things we need to take care of.

So I think, you know, if we got another shot at them, we'd enjoy that for sure.

And then you look at the Minnesota game, we really, we also didn't really play well, but.

That being said, we really grinded and kind of toughed out, you know, a good, a good road win, which always, which always feels good.

Sometimes it's better to win the games where you don't play well.

And that's what we did.

So I saw a video, it's coach after the game, and he said that you guys grew as a team after the Minnesota game.

Is that kind of what you're referring to?

Yeah, I think to a certain extent, definitely.

uh, you know, those, those games were like, I think he said the clip you're talking about, he says something about like everybody expects you to win those games.

And that, and that's really, that's really how it is.

You know, everybody thinks you're going to win.

And sometimes those are tough because there's a lot of prep, like, you know, you can't lose, right?

There's a lot of pressure on that.

But also, you know, you are better at heart.

And like, if you play, like if you play up to your potential, you won't lose, you'll win.

It went very handily.

So I think that there's a balance that we needed to find.

And, you know, against other teams, like I feel like we've kind of done well with that, but then maybe in that game, not as well.

You've always said during our time together here on the jock to jock podcast, no game is a gimme.

Even though Minnesota is at the bottom of the big 10 standings as we're recording here today and

They're tough in conference right now.

I mean, I think they have one conference win for this particular season.

Right.

You didn't go in there saying, yeah, we're just going to eclipse them, right?

We're not going to go hang 60 on them in the first half.

You never said anything like that.

Is that a mentality that your father instilled in you?

Or is that just the type of player you are?

I think it's more just about being realistic, to be honest.

I never expected to do that.

And I know nobody on our team really expected to do that.

They had Indiana beat at home, you know, they go, they beat Ohio State on the road.

Like they played, they've played in close games all throughout, you know, that them and Illinois was close until about 15 minutes ago on the second half.

Like nobody, besides their, their last two games, which definitely weren't good between Maryland and, uh, who was the other team?

Maryland and somebody that beat them by 30.

Other than that, they've been close in, in every game.

And so, you know, going into that, obviously we, we want to be one of those 30 point wins, right?

But sometimes that's not the case.

Like they, they're, they're going to battle and they're going to give us a game.

And that's ultimately what happened.

And I think if we did play well, like we missed, we missed 13 layups in the first half and we're still up three.

So that helps.

It definitely does.

Ohio State on the way.

as we're recording this right now, and they traditionally have been a stronger contender than they are this year.

They're tough even at home at Carver, correct?

Yeah, no, Ohio State is like one of those teams that's better than their record.

I mean, I think they only, they maybe have like three wins in conference.

They've lost like 11 of 12, but they're still like number 35 in the net rankings because they don't have any bad losses.

They, all they do, like they lose by single digits like every game.

They're good.

They're better than their record is.

I don't know what something's going on with them right now to the point where I don't know why they're losing the way they are.

Sometimes that happens with teams.

They're still very dangerous, and we did not play well.

We're their last win.

So that tells you all you need to know.

Northwestern looking to avenge the loss that they had during the Chris Street game, the rescheduled game.

You've got that coming up, and then your trip to one of your favorite cities, Madison, Wisconsin.

Yes.

What is it?

We go at Northwestern first, right?

Go to Evanston first, and then you got Madison on February the 22nd.

So I'm looking a little ahead from when we're recording right now.

It's a pretty tight schedule over the next week or so.

No, it is.

And we need to be ready to go.

I mean, those are all good teams going on the road like Northwestern.

I mean, they're definitely going to remember our game here, that's for sure.

You know, that was a game that I'm sure they would like to like to avenge and then Wisconsin you look at them they got us here So we're gonna want to go up there and take care of business with them because you know, we played them without Chris here and I mean, I think we definitely all think we could have played played better in that one for sure I

know the the cliche would be to say there's not many games left in this particular season that each game is obviously important

But it legitimately for you, if you get a dub on Northwestern, that would move you up in the rankings again in the Big Ten standings.

And that really sets you in a nice seating for the Big Ten tournament coming up in the beginning of March.

Yeah, like you're right.

It is cliche, but it is really a fact.

Everything does matter at this point, very much so.

Every game is extremely important.

And we feel like we're right in the position where

we can impact our seeding greatly in many ways.

And, you know, even if it's not for Big Ten tournament, it's for NCAA tournament, nobody's a lock yet by any means.

Well, I still have more basketball type talk, but we'll move off of the actual game itself.

One of the things I saw during the Super Bowl, I immediately popped for it because I saw the trailer and I thought of you right away.

You saw the trailer as well for Air, courting a legend.

1984 has been a tough year.

Sales are down, our growth is down.

Sonny?

I brought you in here to grow the basketball business.

People don't know what the hell a Nike is.

What's a converse?

NBA All-Star shoe.

There's nothing cool about Nike.

You would have to have a pretty compelling pitch.

I can tell them the one thing the other companies can't compete with.

Our basketball division is terrible.

I do not love it.

This is where you come up with a brilliant idea that no one else can see.

Let's hear it.

I got it.

I found him.

Who's that?

Jesus.

Can't afford it.

I'm willing to bet my career on one guy.

My name's Sonny Vicaro.

I'm with Nike.

Do you typically make it a habit of showing up at people's front doors on a announce?

I don't like to take no for an answer.

Oh, man.

Here we go.

You asked me what I do here.

This is what I do.

I find you players, and I feel it this time.

Okay, it's risky.

When you were selling sneakers out of the back of your Plymouth, that was risky.

Don't change that now.

For a rookie?

Yes.

Who's never set foot on an NBA court.

That's the literal definition of rookie.

Yeah.

What's the plan?

We build a shoe line around just him.

I need the greatest basketball shoe that's ever been made.

Who's the player?

Michael Jordan.

Yep.

The guy that you wanted to play you in the Iowa Hawkeye movie, Ben Affleck, is in this movie.

Along with the guy that you had stated should play Matt Gaetans, and that's Matt Damon.

Chris Tucker, who you had picked to play Tony Perkins is also in this movie.

Just watching the trailer.

What were your takeaways?

I couldn't wait till I was in theaters.

I'm like fired up already.

Those are some of my favorite actors for sure.

I mean, I go like you look at the town,

with Ben Affleck, one of my favorite movies, Good Will Hunting with both those guys, like the Bourne series, Matt Damon, like those are amazing.

I could keep going.

I mean, I love all pretty much every movie with those guys in it.

So as soon as they came up, I would see pretty much anything.

And then just the fact that it has to do with basketball is that much better.

Do you know much about the story of Sonny Vicarro and courting Michael Jordan to make the first year of Jordan's?

I know a little bit and I know kind of the background on Sonny Vicarro, I guess, but I don't know as much as I should.

And that's also why I'm kind of excited to watch the movie, I guess.

And I feel like Damon and Aflac are going to put their own spin on it, too.

That's going to be really good.

During the trailer they were kind of rubbing their thumb across the Nike logo the what would became the first Air Jordan shoe you as somebody who is into shoe collecting Jordan specifically Yeah, did you want a pair of those two?

I wanted a pair like I'll do whatever You know for for those kind of shoes like those are I'm a huge Nike guy obviously we talked about and I'm a shoe collector but

Actually, I've kind of been trying to sell some of my shoes recently, but that's that's a different story.

But you know, like the OG Nikes, like those are those are unreal.

The OG Jordans, whatever, those are like the type of shoes that are worth the most now.

I had always wanted a pair of Jordans when I was growing up.

It would have been like the third and fourth generation Jordans.

Yeah.

When it had the air pocket window in the bottom, I'm sure you know the actual term for that.

I remember those being like the shoe that people had and I didn't have a whole lot of money at the time, so I couldn't afford those.

Those are some of the holy grail items if you kept them good for shoe collecting, right?

Definitely.

I mean, if you had like, say for instance, you had God knows at the time and kept them in good condition, you could probably sell those for, I don't even know now.

It's like an investment, you know?

Right.

Do you think this movie will spike the investment, the interest in shoe collecting going forward?

I think it might.

And so that's kind of why like now I'm thinking maybe I should hold on to my shoes and wait because that's a good idea from you.

Because I mean, if all these people watching it think it's cool and don't, they didn't really realize before what it was like, you know, to, to collect shoes or whatever the case may be.

Now they might be like more in that market.

And so like I could be 100%.

I could make a better profit on that.

Yeah.

So if you hear some time in one of our, uh, one of our podcasts here, you hear, you know, Hey, it's crazy Connor and I've got a shoe collection that I'm trying to sell and you can get them today.

You know, you hear that spot coming up.

That's pretty,

that's coming

soon.

The other thing too, with this being attached to Michael and I didn't see anybody listed as playing Michael Jordan in the movie.

I wonder if whomever's playing him.

A, doesn't get a credited role, or if it's somebody we know, or B, it's always just the story surrounding Michael to try and find him.

What do you think?

I think that that's probably a good point, because I didn't know that, that there was no actor credited for him.

So now that I know that, I mean, I think Viola Davis is in it as maybe his mom.

Yes.

So if that's the case and they're kind of like the whole movie trying to find Michael trying to pin him down that kind of thing.

I think that makes for an interesting storyline for sure.

And then also you could like you said like what if they're what if he's just not as big of a role because it's more about you know Sonny and Nike and his parents and that and that journey versus actually talking to Michael because well I don't know I guess what to see.

I

mean there's going to be basketball in the movie.

In some ways this isn't necessarily a basketball movie.

It's more about the chase of getting to the star and of course tied back to shoes Marketing guy and me starts to think well, wait a second if they make the shoe in the movie Could they release a special edition Air Jordan tied to air courting a legend?

They should Yeah, it's just higher you at this rate that I'm here.

Well, we already had the Philip Rabracha Sriracha and now

We could have the air-courting alleged special edition shoe air-courting alleged Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Viola Davis, Chris Tucker, Jason Bateman, Marlon Wayans, some of the biggest names associated with the movie coming out April 5th in theaters.

So not necessarily a commercial for that, but I thought it would be cool to talk about it.

Hey, Creed's coming out soon too.

Dude.

Okay.

So you had mentioned Michael B. Jordan playing Chris and Keegan Murray in the movie.

Yeah,

there was a such a reach by the way such a reach, but I gave it to

you said that but he was doing a promo on I think like the CBS morning show and he was standing on the basketball court working with some players from college that he helped to Inspire to help out and I saw him on the court and I go You know what that was a really good casting role on Connor's part.

I can see him doing that.

He's shorter

But the dude is yoked after Creed.

Whoa.

Oh, he is.

Yeah, he is.

It's just maybe more like in the face that they're that it's more of a reach.

I could see the body type like we could do like that.

That's I don't need to give Christian King that much credit.

Did you tell any of your teammates or your brother that you cast them in a movie?

I told some of them like I told the ones that I kind of saw him like was with that day.

Yeah.

But then like if I didn't like I feel like we were either off that day or.

I don't know.

I only saw like half the guys or so.

Yeah.

And I told them, but then I didn't like follow up and make sure I told everyone.

But the guys I did told, they thought it was funny.

That's cool.

Austin Ash definitely still has to defend his honor and the accusations that he made.

So we got to get to that, too.

He does

need to.

I told him he needed to come on the pod.

Did he say, did he have a game today?

Yeah.

He said yes, but he has a game today.

Well, hell yeah.

We'll make that happen.

Let's get to the double, double dumb ass.

We're wrapping up the episode here.

Are you ready?

Yeah, I'm ready.

Let's do it.

All right.

I got two stories today.

Both of these happened somewhere within the Big Ten.

And the way that we present it to Connor is we give either a county or a town or something like that, along with the story of these dumbasses that are active in our society.

Here's the first one.

A Brown County woman.

This is in the Northeast part of the state.

She's accused in a gruesome killing and dismemberment case.

and attacked her attorney yesterday during a court hearing.

Moments after a judge agreed to delay her trial.

Was this in Wisconsin, Indiana, or Iowa?

The second story, police in Bloomington arrested a 26-year-old man named Austin who set his car on fire to discourage people from stealing stuff inside it.

Wisconsin, Indiana, or Iowa.

Which story you want first?

Okay, I'm taking the car guy first.

All right.

And that one is Indiana.

Because Bloomington, obviously, you gave me that one.

But, I mean, we'd have to talk to this guy on why he would set his car and all of his belongings on fire to avoid people stealing what was then destroyed, correct?

Yes.

So his 1998 Buick that was on fire when the cops approached, one said, sure it doesn't look like a Buick.

If there's nothing left of the vehicle, then there'd be nothing left to steal," said Austin.

He hoped the explosions would be bigger when his car was on fire.

You just got to wonder about some people, don't you?

It makes you lose faith in society.

You want to stay away.

The more I hear these things, the more I just don't want to talk to people when I go out in public.

It's that bad.

Like imagine, imagine thinking that and like thinking that's a good idea.

I'm surprised you talked to people after the way they treat you on Twitter.

I haven't seen as much bad stuff recently on Twitter.

There was something that you

had, you had commented on the orange crush.

Those responses from Illinois fans are probably crazy, but I didn't even look at them.

There was one, and I'll just bring it up.

I don't remember who he was.

He was like, Hey, nice.

Nice chest hats.

Get off the couch and shoot me.

They are cool.

Appreciate it.

The other story that was in Brown County in the Northeast part of the state, the woman that attacked her attorney, Wisconsin, Indiana, or Iowa.

That one, I truly have no idea.

But I'm going to say Wisconsin because I feel like I don't know the county.

So maybe that's Wisconsin then instead of Iowa.

Final answer?

Final answer.

Can he do it?

I love it!

Oh, I'm

hot.

I'm hot today.

Boom.

25-year-old woman, she was sitting in a courtroom when her attorney asked a judge for an additional two weeks for a defense expert to review her competency to stand trial.

Remember, I mentioned she was in a killing and dismemberment case.

25-year-old woman, I'm not making this up.

Honor her name is Taylor Shabizness.

business I'm not trying to make light of this but doesn't it sound like Taylor should business is like a DJ at a club somewhere in Miami the

last name should business has to be on the all-name team

you guys you guys keep track of fun names that you find across the country

oh without a doubt without a doubt my dad had a guy at sienna his name he's the he's the best freaking awesome dude

yeah

he uh he

Came back to school.

He was in the army.

He went and served like he was in Afghanistan.

I think Really?

Okay.

I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure on that and then he came back and wanted to go to school And so he's like 27 years old joining a college team.

I was basically a freshman.

Yeah, and his name was his name was Justin Love Smith So you might think it was like Justin Right j-u-s-t-i-n

Love middle name Smith.

Mm-hmm.

No, that's not the case.

His name was just hyphen in hyphen love Smith Like just in love I was isn't it was not just in love so an all-timer like that is an all-time great

May I add one please?

So when I was working at a trucking company here recently I was in the recruiting department.

So you're you're working with people across the country to

You know, during the sucking industry, right?

I remember this individual very specifically because it meant that his father also had the name.

His name was Elastic Brown, Jr.

No, no, I don't buy that.

100%

Elastic Brown Elastic Brown, Jr.

What?

Again, all timer.

There was another one.

It was a female and her name was Faquana.

Wait.

Spell that it was a pu No, no Ph you see Like another you in there and then it was like w a nna for quanta Is that Native American?

I don't believe so it definitely sounds like somebody who has an only fans and or a hot tinder account

Yeah, I don't I've never heard that name in my life.

I didn't either I mean I hadn't heard elastic brown jr.

Until that particular moment either.

All right

Two for two today.

That's a that's a great way to wrap up and then going into a couple of games where you're going to be on on fire from the double, double dumb ass and man, going into the Ohio State game, couple of road games coming up.

Anything else you want the audience to know?

I don't think so.

I just think, you know, hopefully if they're supposed to be like freaking snow or something on Thursday night, of course.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

So, you know, the faithful will make it out.

Yes.

Hopefully that they still make it out.

It never fails on the snow on game nights.

Like, yeah, it's been like 80 degrees here for the past week and we haven't had a home game and now we have one and it's going to snow six inches.

How about that?

Why is it for the last three out of the last five or four out of the last five Thursdays we've had snow, which would coincide with some of your games that you've had at home on Thursday nights?

Yeah, it's exactly right.

You can't make it up.

I mean, it's been this way.

I feel like it

It never fails.

It never fails.

Even the girls the last couple of weeks ago had a Saturday home game and they still had a good crowd.

But they had a Saturday home game and it just decides to snow like it would have been sold out, I think.

And they ended up getting maybe 12 or 13,000, which is obviously still amazing.

Like why did it need to snow that day?

It just didn't.

It's winter in Iowa and it's messing with you, Connor.

In your final games of the season, it's going to mess with you the entire way.

I promise.

It is what it is, I guess.

Yeah, I got you.

Connor, I appreciate you being back again this week and taking time for the jock to jock podcast.

Thank you.

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