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Jock 2 Jock · Sat Dec 17, 2022
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I am Brian Marshall.
I am joined by number 30 of the Iowa basketball team.
Saw him do some physical play on the floor at Carver, Connor McCaffrey.
Welcome to the show my friend.
Thanks for having me.
I got to get a, get a, get a couple of those double, double dumb ass questions right this, this episode.
So how have you been prepping for that?
Obviously you've been prepping for a lot of basketball, but how do you prep for double, double dumb ass?
Honestly, I have not prepped even a little bit.
I'm just hoping I get lucky.
Got to get you a scout, right?
Yeah.
I needed like a scouter and porter some
500 wins for your father.
That has to mean a lot to the family, doesn't it?
Yeah, no, it was really fun, especially being against Iowa State, you know, that rivalry game.
And in the fashion that we did, it was just, it was just one of those games.
We were kind of, we jumped from the start.
It was never really a question.
And I mean, it was fun game to play in, but then kind of after the fact, so I kind of got caught up in the game.
And I was like, I was just happy that we won and beat him and forgot that it was 500 for a second, like right when I came off the court.
Yeah, I just forgot like just for a second and then and then I remembered as soon as I like walked past him and then I was like, oh This one means more and so then obviously I go back to him and then we celebrate like I sent her court and that so I mean it was a great moment and like the team came over like my brother my family was on the court like My sister was there my mom so it was just it was all it was a great great time and just happy for him and it was
especially again, being inside a state.
I love being those guys.
When you have a milestone like that and you and your brother being able to help him to get to that milestone, what does that mean for you guys?
You know, it definitely was special and it meant a lot to us.
But also, like, I think we kind of take with us a lot every single game that we play for him.
I wouldn't say it's necessarily like...
I mean, yeah, like I was 500.
So that was a big one.
But I think that we, we definitely carry a lot of pride with us in every single game that we're playing as, as having him as the coach, if that makes sense.
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Which Bruce Springsteen song did he listen to after getting 500 then?
Oh, that's a good question.
He, he likes the rising.
Yeah.
Isn't that, that's like one of the big ones, right?
Yeah.
I like Bruce Springsteen, but he's, he's like out of control with
it.
The boss is his.
If he, if after he kind of decompressed, if it was, let's get some Springsteen on.
Maybe dancing in the dark or something.
Yeah.
That leads into, you guys go up against the team that you have said on this podcast before, you do not like, and that's Wisconsin.
I saw you out there playing pretty physical.
Is that by design or just how you play and or it's just how you want to play against Wisconsin?
Yeah, no, that's just, that's just kind of how I've been trying to play.
Um, I would say like a big, a big piece of it was, I mean, my matchups were pretty physical.
Like I was guarding some bigger guys.
So I had to, you know, I had to be fit and they do a lot of post up stuff.
So I had to be physical down in the posts.
Um, but I just think that, I mean, definitely as a rivalry game for Wisconsin.
But like I wouldn't say that there was like I would have done everything I was doing against whoever we played.
That one really hurt, I guess.
Obviously getting into OT and then things kind of shifted a little bit.
What was the turning point in that particular game, do you think?
I mean, we just traded baskets a little bit too much in overtime.
Like we made a big run in regulation.
You know, it's kind of tough.
Like you rely on different guys for scoring every night.
And then like that night.
you know, it's kind of Patrick, Tony and I. And but like on other nights, like, you know, we rely a lot on Chris and a you will get some buckets for us.
And like that, you know, they weren't playing.
So then you go deeper in the bench and it gives guys different roles.
And so it's kind of like, it just sucks that we didn't have those guys with us.
Because then you add you add in there, like we only scored 60 points in regulation.
That's that's obviously really, really low for us.
it's just unfortunate that we couldn't handle, I don't know, the load of having those guys out a little bit better.
So what's harder for you?
Is it the low scoring games where it's you and your opponents are in the 50s, 60s toward the end of the game?
Or is it harder to be in those games where you've got a lot of points and you're near in 100 for both teams?
I mean, which one's harder for
you?
I wouldn't say either one's really harder for me.
I just think it's something you kind of adjust to as the game's going.
Like, if you're going to play a game in the 60s, you kind of know it and it's going to be, and that's like their style.
That's like kind of what they want to play.
And we, I don't think that that would have been what we would have chosen if like, you know, looking back, like we don't want to play that way, but we're pretty thin in terms of, you know, guys being hurt, injuries and stuff.
So,
that changes how you have to play.
Like I played 42 minutes, like I think Tony played 40 minutes, 44 minutes or something.
Phillip played a bunch of minutes, Patrick played a bunch of minutes.
So it changes based on how you play and like the type of team that you play.
So going in, we kind of knew that that's the style they want to play.
And obviously we don't want to play their style, but it's difficult at times to, you know, when you're so thin, like scoring 100 when you get
Guys playing 40 minutes.
It's just different.
How was the feel at Carver during that game?
I would say I would say I was pretty good Like I think the fans that were there were amazing You know, I feel like it was You know rivalry game on a Sunday I think we could have sold it out and been and been alright But it definitely it definitely wasn't really close to that but the people that were there were pretty loud You know at different times of the game
But it was kind of a weird game, too.
So it was never, we should have gotten the crowd into it a little bit more than we did.
The stretch that's coming up, I mean, it's still a couple of games at home with the student section going home for Christmas or otherwise.
Does that make it a little bit more difficult because there's maybe a few less inside for home games?
Yeah, next two games, like we never, the student section always dies out over this time.
But I feel like I've noticed
Um, like we play Saturday and that's graduation.
So there'll be like a ton of families and people here still and people like, you know, in town and looking for something to do at night before they go home.
So maybe they come to the game and then the games before Christmas always seem to have good crowds as well because like families are all together, like looking for something to do.
And so I feel like those games are always, always decent as well.
Like you wouldn't expect it, but then they end up being pretty good.
There was a picture that I saw on Twitter where I believe it was Tony was taking some shots after the game doing that.
Is that something that you as an athlete do a lot just to kind of get your game going or just kind of putting yourself in a different space or is that just kind of one of Tony's deals?
I think some guys do that.
I wouldn't say I don't do that, especially it kind of depends, I guess.
I did it like once or twice, but most of the time I'll just come in like the next day or next morning.
But some guys like to work out like some guys will go on and lift right after right after the game.
Like really
they're
already kind of in the you know, they're in the heat of the moment.
They're warmed up.
They're losing.
They just get in there and they just get their lifts in like it's different for everybody.
Yeah.
But like, I don't know.
He must just he must just like that that piece of it.
Even after playing the amount of minutes that he played to be out there, it just shows the stamina and the conditioning that all of you guys have versus us people that sit on the couch.
Let's be fair, right?
There's the new Michael Jordan MVP trophy.
You're a little younger to maybe not have seen a lot of Jordan.
You've probably watched a lot of tape of Jordan and stuff.
But what are some some players that you have watched or or
Heroes in the game that you've watched or that you emulated some of their game to to make it some of your game.
Yeah, um, I mean I definitely I really like LeBron like Mike I appreciate and I wish I saw more of I just didn't I just wasn't you know I wasn't.
Old enough yet so I kind of grew up in the LeBron era and so I really.
I love bronze passing like that was one thing that I always kind of and it's kind of do it all You know, he'll rebound he'll pass he'll bring in transition.
He scores when necessary Obviously because he's about to leave the NBA all-time in scoring, right?
It's just you know, that was kind of like my era so Those kinds of things from him, but then like somebody who's maybe a little bit more similar that kind of try to take that from was like Dreymond Like defensively
Toughness leadership, you know rebounding passing playmaking all of those things That's somebody that I've looked at before And then I don't know let's say those are those are really like the main two because I used to play different like in high school I played different than I play now like you know in high school I was on Really good teams like we won state championships, but I scored I scored more
You know, like I average 20 points a game and I had my brother on the team and he averaged another 15 and.
One of my other buddies, Devontae Lane, played Central Michigan.
He averaged like 15, 16.
So we had, we had a pretty balanced team, but we all were scoring and doing different things.
And so it was like then when I got to college, I'm kind of playing different roles all the time.
So like.
Sometimes I'll be a playmaker facilitator.
Sometimes I'll be scoring and trying to attack the basket, use my body without very much verticality, similar to like, like Luca Doncic maybe, like how he kind of just spins and kind of plays at his pace and he can't really jump, but he's always like where he wants to be.
Maybe that type of player, like it's kind of how I used to play and how I want to play at times spinning.
getting into a spot and getting fouled, getting points at the foul line, those kinds of things.
So I guess it kind of all changes, but throughout my career, those would be like the guys I really enjoy and kind of look at.
When you were a kid and you were growing up, did you have an NBA team or are you more of a college guy at that point?
So when I was growing up, well, I was, I've always been a college guy, but I've also always been an NBA guy as well.
I've just been a basketball guy.
But when I was growing up, my favorite player was Dwayne Wade.
like before Bron anything but I can't take too much from his game that's not really you know the bounce it doesn't really translate as much as I wish as much as I wish it did yeah I can't I can't claim that there's I feel like there's so many people that you could like look at like if I really kind of got down to it um and different pieces from everyone like in terms of where I get the assists the passing the rebounding steals
defense, scoring in the post, shooting threes, like all of these different things that I've tried to try to do throughout my career, like where exactly I got them
from.
And I don't know if this reference will make much sense to you, but sometimes I see some of the things that you've done and I was like, well, how can I compare them to somebody that I used to watch a lot of?
And I see John Paxton from the Bulls.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
The way that you
Set everything up that you don't always take the ball because you've got other scorers on the team Chris Tony and you're always trying to get the ball into a spot to then score Which is a lot like what John was doing back then would you agree with that assessment?
Yeah, I mean that's that's definitely well I guess I would say that's absolutely what I try to do a lot of the time Yeah, it's tougher for me because again, I just wish I could have watched those bowls teams But I just you know, maybe I should look them up on YouTube and watch some games from
from back in the day.
I just didn't get to, you know, I just don't know as much about John Paxson.
I know obviously who he is and the legend of him and, you know, the teams and how amazing they were.
I just unfortunately didn't get to see as much, but that's your description, I would say is dead on.
And I mean, there's obviously Steve Kerr, another great guy who ended up being a great player coach and he's been very successful as well.
And you've kind of mentioned that that's
Kind of a direction that you were thinking about, you know, down the line too, is getting into coaching too, right?
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility for me.
Whether it's in college or the NBA, I've had a lot of people this year come up to me and say like, hey, we love you plan, but we just want to see you coach like that kind of thing.
And it's kind of funny just because I feel like it's happened so much this year.
And I appreciate it.
Like when it does, you know, I think it's like a real vote of confidence that people
see me in that way.
And I think that is the direction I want to at least try at some point.
And in some capacity, like I will be coaching, whether it's college, MBA, or if that doesn't work out, then I get a real job, you know, outside of coaching, then maybe I'll do high school and or AU or something from wherever I live, like all of this, it all kind of changes, I guess, depending on
life circumstances, but I will be coaching something.
I have to imagine it'd be hard to give up the game altogether.
Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do that.
I have to imagine that that's going to be tougher as we start to count down the days towards the end of this particular season.
Have you thought anything about that yet?
I have because I pretty much was in a similar predicament last year.
Yeah.
Like in terms of I didn't think I was going to come back.
So I was already thinking about life after.
life after basketball.
And so I've gone down that path, but I'm just trying to, I kind of already have a couple of things set up for after the season.
So I'm trying to just kind of enjoy and stay locked in on like every day here, because the season goes by so fast.
Like there's so much that goes into it and so much work.
So like staying locked in on this here and then kind of dealing with everything else after the fact.
Cause last year I think I was thinking about it a little bit.
more than I should have, and getting a little bit uneasy about it, because I didn't have anything set or planned.
And so now that I'm in a little bit better spot with my ideas of what I think I want to do, it just puts me at ease a little bit more, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
I have another question that I will only ask once in the podcast.
I asked one earlier.
You can go back in the archives and listen to that question, and Connor's answer to it, so I'm going to ask this one.
You don't have a sneaky seventh season of eligibility, do you?
No, I think people would freak out if I did.
Get this dude out of here.
No, I'm done after this.
There's no more coming back.
You ready for double, double dumb ass?
Let's get to it.
I'm ready.
I have made one adjustment because we're coming into this as one and eight.
You got one.
Got one on the board.
At least I got one.
The only adjustment I'm going to make
is when I identify the location, I'll give a town or a county or something like that, it may give you a hint, it may not.
Okay.
We'll still get at it.
I figured that that was maybe a little more fair for you, especially since you hadn't had any practice this week.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
And I think that'll help me a lot more, a lot more than you think maybe.
Yeah, holiday season, police in Traverse City,
broke up a fight between two 30-year-old men dressed as Christmas characters who were attending a work Christmas party.
One dressed as the Grinch, the other man dressed as a reindeer.
Hold on to that.
Your schools that you're thinking about are Michigan State, Penn State, Nebraska, schools in the Big Ten for the double-double dumbass.
The other story, a Clearfield County woman is facing charges after attacking a neighbor with an electric cattle prod during an argument.
Michigan State, Penn State, or Nebraska.
Walk me through your thought process on these, please.
All right.
For the first one, the Grinch fighting, I think that's Michigan State.
Final answer?
Yeah.
I think, because I think Traverse City, I don't, I don't really know, but I'm pretty sure.
I thought that's in Michigan somewhere.
I think that's in Michigan.
Okay, I could be wrong though.
Like, I've really never heard of either place, but I just, for some reason, Traverse City sounds like it's in Michigan.
Like, I thought maybe I've heard that maybe once before.
And then Clearfield County, I have no idea what that is.
All right.
But I'm going to say Nebraska, because I've never heard of it.
So there's probably just random places in Nebraska that are not as thought of.
And this is why I appreciate you going through the thought process with me.
On the police in Traverse City, Michigan, broke up a fight between two 30-year-old men dressed as Christmas characters attending a work Christmas party.
So boom, shaka laka, you nailed that one.
Okay, I thought I had it.
Yeah.
One of the men dressed as the Grinch, the other is a reindeer.
When police arrived, the reindeer was defending himself from the Grinch as the Grinch was punching him.
I don't know if it was in the nose or not, but afterwards, Reindeer had a red nose.
The other one, I don't think, did you say Nebraska final answer on that?
Yeah.
A Clearfield County, Pennsylvania woman.
Oh, geez.
As in charges after attacking a neighbor with an electric cattle prod during an argument.
33-year-old Bobby Suyatsko.
I mean, with a name like that, you'd think Nebraska, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
She's facing charges related to simple assault, recklessly endangering another person.
After one o'clock in the morning, there was a report of a fight.
She decided to use a cattle prod on her neighbor.
A cattle.
Geez.
Again, I would have thought that happened in Russia,
too.
You would think.
I got one more.
No, I can't do that because it's not based upon those three schools.
So I'll leave that alone for now.
Hey, on the board with two right now, two and nine.
I
think
I'll at least get 50% from here on out with the hit.
What's good shooting, quite frankly, being serious?
From, like, the field or from three?
Let's go with the field.
Anywhere, like, I would say, like, it depends who you are and, like, how many threes you shoot, how many twos you shoot, if
you're a
post player, if you're a guard.
Like, for post players who don't shoot threes, I would say, like, 50%.
Like, 48, 49, 50.
Guards who are shooting more threes.
You should like at worst I would say as long as everything's going well, maybe like 43, 44, 45 would be like the low end.
And then again, close to 50 is like good.
But as close to 50 as you can be.
Hey, did you happen to hear about Grinnell College just launching everything from three in that game?
Yeah, they're just trying to get on the news or something.
They're just trying to get any bit of attention they can't.
That's gimmicky.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, I know you couldn't do that at a D1 level at a big 10 school, but, but they're D3 if I remember correctly.
And to launch threes and nail as many as they did, I think the score was somewhere, what, 112, 115, something like that.
I think they were like 40 for 120, something like that.
So it's like 33%.
So
they're kind of double, double dumbass category right there, roughly.
Yeah.
So as a coach, you would not necessarily have your team
Just do one thing for the remainder of the game.
I mean, if I was the coach, I could like, if I, you know, it's, it's, it's a fun way that you have people talk about you.
More people are talking about them than would have been otherwise.
Hey, might as well try it, I guess.
It's not basketball, but like, it's kind of like a fun, like, it's like something you do with your friends in like a video game.
Yeah.
Like, Hey, let's try this.
And obviously it's not going to work.
It's not real, like a real game or like a real basketball game, but.
So me versus my friend, Mark, Mark has to throw up a bunch of threes and everything I have to do is windmill dunks.
Do you think I win?
No, unless the hoop's like five foot.
Ah, damn.
This was an interesting episode today, Connor.
We covered a lot of ground with the fans that are listening with the games that are upcoming at home.
Anything that you wanted to let them know about upcoming games, getting back out on the road on big 10 action.
Nebraska's in there
right now.
Like.
Today will be the first day we introduce we play CMO.
So that'll be there and they're actually pretty good Like a lot of people don't don't really know that they don't understand, you know, it's just and it makes it like it's not like everyone's tuned into CMO basketball, but they're a pretty good team So we got to be we got to be ready for them We'll talk about them today.
They have a really good point card.
So we got to be ready to ready to handle him and then Like I think we play Eastern Illinois.
I think yeah our next game.
Yeah, so we got a
You know, no letdown game there before Christmas.
And then, you know, once Big Ten starts, that's when the, it's when the big boys come out.
So we got to be, we got to be 100% ready for, for all of those as a hit.
And after Valentine's Day, you get to go back to Madison and go play with your friends there again.
Yeah.
That's a big one.
We really want to get that one.
But I think it'll be an interesting game.
Like it'll be so much different, like with Chris and AU, hopefully back by then.
Yeah, it sucked that you lost to Wisconsin, but that was OT.
And because of some of the ridiculousness that I covered today, I'm going to end the show with this piece of ridiculousness.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is your roommate Philip Rabracha?
Yes, he is.
Has anyone ever pitched to him Rabracha Sriracha?
I don't think so, but I will now that he said it.
I think that's something he needs to hear about.
Just let him know that it was on the Jock to Jock podcast.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, I'll definitely give you the credit.
But I'm going to ask him if he's ever heard of before.
And if he has, hopefully he doesn't hit you in the arm because of it.
Yeah, and he won't.
He's
soft.
He won't hit.
No, I'm kidding.
He's not soft.
He probably will hit me.
Quick on the podcast front.
You and your brother on hiatus for a little bit here a couple episodes ago.
You guys still kind of taking a break?
Yeah, we do need to get back to it, but we've had so much like we've had a bunch of busy times with the season, like
I feel like we haven't really had a break until now.
And the only reason we have a break now is because it's finals week, so we're focusing kind of on that.
But we do need to get back into it, because we still have two more episodes of our current contract, and then we'll start it up again.
How
about you and Luca?
Luca's doing pretty good
at the Iowa Wolves.
No, he's killing it.
Well, he's up with the T Wolves right now.
So he was in Portland less two nights ago, maybe three nights ago now, and he was in LA last night.
So he's been with the T-wolves.
So he hasn't been, he hasn't been in the morning or around, but maybe he'll be back here at some point.
That's cool.
I've done the Midwest goodbye.
I've said, we're supposed to say goodbye.
And then
I'm used to that.
My grandparents do the same thing.
Connor, thanks for being on the jock to jock podcast again this week.
Yup.
Thanks for having me.
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