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Jock 2 Jock · Sat Dec 3, 2022
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Thanks for downloading this episode of the jock to jock podcast presented by rock 108 and sponsored by I'm on communications experience the I'm on difference.
The jock to jock podcast here on rock 108.com and wherever you get your podcasts, I'm half the conversation, the radio jock in this equation.
I'm Brian Marshall and joined on the other side of things by number 30 from the Iowa basketball team, Connor McCaffrey.
Welcome back.
Thanks for having me back.
This has been fun.
I'm excited for this episode.
Man, I appreciate that you say that because I'm sure that there are a lot of people who ask you to do podcasts or something like that.
And you're kind of like, again, but you also have your own that you do with your brother, which has got to be kind of a fun little deal to do sometimes.
No, that is fun.
So I'm kind of used to it, but there's definitely like, I mean, some interviews can be a little, I don't know, but not
boring, but you do get a lot of the same questions.
So I like that.
Like kind of like we talked about, I like that it's a little different, the type of stuff that we talk about.
So let's get into the stuff that's repetitive.
Right on cue, right?
This is a non basketball player talk.
Let's be fair.
Okay.
Yeah.
Does it get to you sometimes that you don't get a score more or is it just not meant for you?
How does that play into your game?
No, I don't really care.
I think it's more about
I don't know, like some games I'll shoot more and score more and some games I won't.
I don't think it's necessarily, like I don't go into the game thinking like, oh, I'm going to shoot more or I'm going to shoot less.
I just kind of try to take what they give me, move the ball, you know, give people the ball in the right positions and make plays out of that, I guess.
With your brother out there starting, he's doing very well and the rest of the team is seeming to gel very early in the season.
I
think that's a plus of having the guys back that we do.
We've all played together for a while now.
There's no new transfers that we got to come in and not really understanding what we're trying to do or weird chemistry things.
I've played with, this is the second year now with Phillip and Peyton and they're both smart players, so they make it easy.
It's the third year with Chris, Tony, AU, all of them for me.
And then same as Patrick, my fourth year with Patrick, well, just in college, but just life in general.
And then you talk about all the freshmen, again, really smart players who are coming in and really picking stuff up quickly because RFNs is pretty complicated for somebody who doesn't really come in knowing and understanding what we're trying to do.
It's all new, but we got guys who really kind of understand and we play well together and there's good chemistry, so it makes it easy.
Well, we'll move on from the sports.
Appreciate you taking some time to do the mundane.
I think it's nice to get your perspective on what you think you did in the previous game as a team and then looking ahead as well.
And I think it gives Iowa fans a chance to understand it a little bit more from your perspective.
Appreciate you taking the time on that.
Those are the easy ones.
We had talked about in the last episode separating your father, Fran McCaffrey, coach of the Iowa basketball team, separating dad and coach.
He obviously has been coaching for quite some time.
And did he encourage you to get involved in basketball?
I would say yes, he did.
But he also never really pressured me either.
the only time he kind of ever did bring me in and say like hey you know this this could be something you need to work on and focus on was I was in sixth or seventh grade and he kind of brought me it was like okay like this is about the time when you know you're pretty good you're better than all your friends you're better than everybody you play against but you need to you need to make a decision now like how good do you want to be like do you want to actually work on it or do you want to just have fun with your friends because both are okay
like you want to play baseball, you want to play something else, whatever, that's fine.
And I won't pressure you.
I want you to do what you want to do.
But if you do want to be good, you got like there's certain things you have to do when there's workouts and people you need to be like you need to go to camps and you need to be playing AAU and taking everything seriously.
So that was kind of like eye opening for me, I guess.
And I just knew that from that point on, I obviously decided that I wanted to be good.
And I
I just started taking it more seriously.
I would go undercover and shoot on the, the shooting gun, which is like the thing that rebounds for you, pass it back.
And I would get shots up on that.
I would work out with the, the assistants and our player development guys, the volunteers, the managers, they'd run for me and I'd do stuff with them.
I, I try to play in a, well, this wasn't until I'm older, I guess, but I tried to play and pick up with the guys when I got older, play one-on-one mess with them, stuff like that.
So there's,
There was different things that I just started trying to do that obviously I was very privileged to do because of my because of my opportunities with my dad.
I had a gym to go to whenever I wanted.
So I'm extremely grateful and thankful for that because I know that's obviously something that not everyone has.
But I do think I got to give all of those things that like that's why I ended up being the player that I was, I guess, is because I was able to do all of the things like extra time in the gym.
exposed to different people, different coaching styles, and that led to a lot of improvement in my game, I guess.
Your father's known for his coaching style and the way that he reacts sometimes.
When you have him as a father versus maybe you mess up on the court or something like that and you get a little bit of the heat, is that hard to deal with sometimes?
I would say not.
Really?
I mean a little bit but not really because like most people who I don't know a lot of people definitely do think that like they just see like highlights or something on TV but most people kind of like that know them and are around them and stuff that it's not they know it's not really like that so when I hear other people talking or I don't know get asked questions about it I just kind of like shrug it off because it's coming from
People who don't really like know or understand so it doesn't it doesn't really bother me that bad and plus whenever he does yell like that or get after us I would say like it's Normally warranted like we either want him to be yelling at the rest like that because they probably did something bad because there sucked or something or We weren't playing well and we needed to get fired up because the like last game me call time I'll start a second half and let us up like
He should have, though.
We suck to start the second half.
Two turnovers on inbounds passes.
They come down six-hole run, layups in transition, when they weren't scoring on us in the half court offense.
So those are kind of things that, like, I don't know, people see him yelling, and they're like, oh, geez, look at this guy.
But it's just kind of, I mean, we're just used to it.
And it's what you expect.
Like, that coaches our whole lives yell at us, and we kind of understand what's expected of us, I guess.
And he's really not like that very much.
Like he, I think a lot of people think he just yells, yells, yells all the time.
Like he rarely, very rarely like goes like that.
I
think you answered it here just a little bit ago, but when the Iowa faithful picked up on and started using the term franimal, how'd you feel about it?
I don't know.
I honestly haven't really heard that as much.
So I, I guess it's just like, I don't know.
I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing or what it's supposed to be.
I think it's positive for the fan base because we know that the passion that goes with it is directed the right way.
But I look at it and go, there has to be something he's saying to you, to the rest of the players, a particular critique, the way he's telling you has to cut deep to your playing style or to your game at least a little bit that day.
Or it fires you up.
It's got to do one of the, one of the other, right?
Yeah.
I mean, most of the time, like some guys, I would say you can't yell at as much because they just get mad or kind of shut you out.
And there's different examples of everyone.
Like you kind of know, I don't know, I guess I'm not going to use any examples, but you know, like who you can yell at and who you should not yell at and just coach.
And so those are things like you learn as a coach.
And that's kind of what, I mean, that's what he's good at.
And that's what you learn after 40 years or whatever it is that he's been doing it or 40, I don't know how long, how old he is, but like all, like you said, like it doesn't ever, I feel like it doesn't ever really, maybe me a little bit more because of the dad factor.
Like I might give a little bit back and I probably shouldn't, but it's just kind of, that's just kind of our relationship, I guess.
Have you ever fired back at him while you're in, in a game?
Yeah, well, it's more rare in a game.
I've only ever done it in a real game.
I did it in a couple of scrimmage games.
And then maybe in a real game, like once or twice, but it never goes well.
But in practice, I would say more so.
But OK, but I mean, I don't want it to seem like I'm doing it all the time.
Like it's still not very much like not very much because it's not going to go well for anyone.
and I don't like I don't want to but sometimes I just think because it's my dad like I just I don't know I just have like a different type of reaction than other people would like to the to the coach you know what I mean
yeah let's step away from the coach side let's go back to the dad side if you don't mind what's something that maybe we don't know about your dad behind the scenes how what is he into what's he like I saw you guys um at the the field of dreams here this season that had to been a little thing for you and
him to hang out together and do that?
Yeah, I know.
Field of Dreams is awesome.
He's a baseball fan and he knows I am, so we love going to that.
We're huge Phillies fans, so the World Series is tough for us.
I mean, obviously, everybody hates the Astros, so we just wanted the Phillies to take that dub.
So it hurt, but it was a fun playoff run.
My dad's very simple, honestly.
go out to eat quite a bit.
He's a big, like, movie guy, like, knows a ton about movies, actors, like, TV shows, stuff like that.
Like, he's really into that.
And I mean, we just, like, talk a lot about basketball.
Like, when we're at home, like, the guy just loves basketball.
And he always is gonna try to, I don't know, make his way around all my siblings' games and everything and whatever, whatever we got going.
But it's not like...
I don't know.
It's not like it's a bunch of stuff that you wouldn't expect from him.
It's not like I'm gonna say he's a he's a great singer dancer.
Nothing like that.
Yeah, he's pretty he's a pretty normal dude.
Like I said, we kind of handle our business and that's just the latest.
You had mentioned that you're into country music.
You and him are taking a road trip.
What do you think he puts on the radio?
Bruce every time.
Seriously?
Bruce Springsteen not even close.
Wow.
The whole time.
Well, he also
he kind of lets me control the oxy like he'll like he likes podcasts so he'll listen to certain podcasts with players but he also it's very matter of fact so if he decides he doesn't like something like say i'm playing an episode for like 10 minutes and he decides he doesn't like it after five he's like turn it off and i'm like no like way he gets better he's like no turn it off like he just it's right it's very it's like right away there's no there's no debate
So that's one thing I guess that you could say.
If your father and you were listening to the jock to jock podcast in the car, would he give us a turn it off?
Uh, no, I would say that the turn it off is more music related.
Got it.
Yeah, like more like bed song.
He didn't like it or something like that.
I wouldn't say the turn it off is as much with podcasts because he actually does give those a little bit more time.
But
The music is where that doesn't let that slide for as long.
All
right.
Unless it's like Bruce Springsteen or Zach Brown Band or something.
Well, if I want to have him listen to this show, not only because you're on it, but if I can get some Bruce Springsteen, you know, to hang out with us, I think we're going to be all right.
Coach, if you happen to be listening, we're going to play double, double dumb ass.
Connor coming into this one started the season O and two.
What we do is we read the headline of a story that
happened somewhere within the Big Ten.
Connor will assess, and I'll give him three options of three different areas that it could come from within the Big Ten.
I've got two stories.
You ready to go, Connor?
Let's hear it.
The schools that you'll be looking at here today, your options.
Ohio State, Penn State, or Rutgers.
Got it.
First headline.
Car thief.
Escape the police.
But he was later identified when the car owner noticed that there was a device connected to it named Daryl's iPhone.
He figured out who Daryl was, but he's still on the run.
The other headline.
A 53-year-old named Mike Itkis was running for Congress as an independent, basically had no chance, so he was trying to up his profile, win more votes.
He released a sex tape on Pornhub.
Oh my god.
I told you two stories that were going to be pretty wild here today on the double, double dumb ass.
So, which one do you want to take first?
I'm going to do the driving one first.
Okay, the driving one.
The car thief.
The car thief.
The car thief.
So, is it Ohio State, Penn State, or Rutgers on that
one?
It's got to be Rutgers because we were just in Newark and Jersey's rough.
Like, I mean, Newark is rough.
And so the Piscataway is close enough.
So I'm thinking car thief, somebody not so bright connects their phone to the thing.
I'm keeping it in Jersey.
Piscataway and Newark, not far from each other.
That's my answer on that one.
Okay.
I got that marked down for you right now.
That doesn't have to be your final answer yet.
How about the politician with his own porn video?
Okay.
I'm going to say
Uh... So he's clearly into, like, freedom of speech, freedom of press, whatever.
Like, he's into that, so I'm gonna say... Freedom to show his wing.
Yeah, freedom to do whatever.
So I'm gonna give him the nod.
Because he had no chance to win, I'm gonna stay away from the, like, Ohio State, like Ohio is a little bit more of a...
Kind of contentious state like that could be a little more 50-50 with votes and then Same with Pennsylvania more of a battleground state.
So I might I Don't know I'm gonna say Ohio State for that
one.
Okay, so you've chose for the car thief Rutgers and for the politician in porn Ohio State final answers
final answers
I Have some bad news for you
over for
oh for four
Yeah, go for four
Was the politician Jersey?
Yeah,
Jews
Jersey, New York.
Yep.
I almost all God I will switch it to make that and then is the driver Columbus
No, it's actually Pennsylvania.
That's
okay.
So
I should have been one for four.
I should have switched it.
I had I had an idea
Yeah, two guys jumped a woman in Pittsburgh earlier this month took her keys stole her car
Police tracked it down a few hours later, and then they saw Darrell's iPhone was connected up.
The politician had released his own porn video.
Mike Itkis, he's 53, was running for Congress in New York as an independent, so he upped his profile by releasing a sex tape.
One of his platforms is Sex Positivity, so he thinks sex shouldn't be so taboo and wants to legalize prostitution.
Political stunt or not, it's a real porno.
Hell of a hell of a tactic.
He was, uh, with X-rated actress named Nicole Sage, somebody that you know.
No, that's a negative ghost writer.
Okay.
Negative.
Double, double dumb ass starting the season.
Oh, and four, that's okay.
You can come back.
I'll get hot.
I'll get hot.
Yeah.
You got to get on a streak.
I mean, sometimes it takes more minutes to get to the points.
And that's what you were showing at the seat and all game, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I didn't shoot until there was like four minutes to go.
So
you could finish this one out strong.
Anything that you want to hype, have the audience know about, talk about your podcast.
No, I don't think so.
I mean, I feel like they already got the, got the gist of my podcast and teed up and we've talked about that quite a bit.
So we're actually, we're taking a tiny break right now just because we've had a lot of games and it's been harder to get into episodes going.
So I don't have anything else on my mind today.
Connor, I appreciate the time on this for the jock to jock podcast today.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for listening to this episode of the jock to jock podcast presented by rock 108 and sponsored by I'm on communications experience.
The I'm on difference.
