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We're back on the jock to jock podcast on season two with my featured guest.
Number nine, your punter for the Iowa football team, Tori Taylor.
Hello.
And it's good to see you again.
Brian, always a pleasure.
Thank you again.
Yeah.
Look forward to discussing the weekend and things moving forward and yeah, really looking forward to it.
So thanks again.
So the weekend as we're referring to the Nevada game starts off great, doesn't it?
Yeah.
I mean, whether or was probably not, it was kind of
It really just rained, what was it?
Probably four, 30-ish, five o'clock up until kickoff.
And then half time it didn't stop, came back out, was still raining and thought, well, it was kind of just a light sprinkle.
But yeah, all the delays started to come.
But to answer your question, sorry, I started off great.
Couldn't have gone any better.
So you got your family in the stands for what is the second game at this point.
And I saw that your family was interviewed by KCRGTV9.
And I loved seeing your father talk about coming over to see you play live.
And that's something that they normally watch you what at three o'clock Australian time.
Yeah, about that.
Yeah.
Your little brother decides to get a little cocky on the newscast.
Yeah, it took a few shots at me, but I wouldn't expect anything less.
So he says that he's the best punter in the family.
What do you have to say to that?
He can come back to me in about 15 years time and we'll see.
But I think, like I said in the interview, he's a very good little player.
So yeah, I'll make sure he doesn't know that.
But yeah, he's going to be pretty good whether he goes down the same track as me.
Who knows?
Yeah, we'll wait and see.
What age did they start allowing you to play Australian rules
football?
60 around the six or seven month age mark.
Oh really?
Wow.
Yeah, everyone everyone kind of starts young and then they don't really start proper like simulated games until eight or nine.
But I think my brother started playing when he was seven or eight actually.
So he started at a young age, which has kind of helped him
in your twin brother.
Did he also play Australian rules football too?
Yeah, we played football from
about seven till we were about 15.
And then we, we both stopped and I went back when I was about 18 or 19.
And yeah, he stopped.
He hasn't played since 14 or 15.
So when your little brother starts mouthing off like that, I mean, an older brother's job is supposed to, you know, set him straight, right?
Isn't that, isn't that how it goes?
Yeah, I will.
Yeah, I will.
I'm just, uh, sometimes you've got to give them a little bit of their own limelight and things like that.
But yeah, I'll put them in his place.
Don't worry.
Okay.
I got it.
So going back to the Nevada game, the, the weather starts coming in.
They were talking about it on the, on the broadcast and that if lightning struck within eight miles of Kinnock stadium that they had to halt the game.
And then for every lightning strike, they had to reset the clock.
What is that to, to the team, not only the, the mentality of, of look, we're playing a game now, but not knowing when you get to go back out there.
How much does that affect the team?
It probably affected guys, some guys, more than other guys.
But I think we're a very young team, but we're a very mature team as well.
And I think that really helped a lot.
But it really was just the frustrating thing was you never know.
So you never knew when you were going to go back out there.
And that was probably the hardest thing to deal with.
And when the first happened, it's like, all right, we'll go back in half an hour, 45 minutes.
And then it was probably about 20, 25-ish minutes in.
Everyone looks up at the clock and 30 minutes starts again.
And then that's when it kind of runs.
I was like, oh, you're kidding.
And then I think we may have gone back out there.
Only for a couple of players, maybe like five minutes or something, come back in and then the clock started again.
And I was like, all right, we'll wait around.
And then someone came in.
I think it may have been coach friends was like, all right, yeah, you got to minimum 75 minutes.
And everyone's like 75 minutes.
Like you're joking, aren't you?
Yeah.
We went out there.
We went out for one play, came back in.
I remember sitting there, I'm like, I don't know if I can wait another 75 minutes.
It's going to be nearly 1 AM before we start again.
And then Coach Ferrand kind of said, this one's going to be quick.
And I'm like, yeah, we'll wait and see about that.
But no one really knew.
And yeah, Coach Ferrand was really just a messenger.
Yeah, we went back out there and played the last quarter and a half and got the win.
And it was kind of just like, all right, I'm glad that's over.
Let's move on to next week.
Yeah, how hard is it to come back off of that versus a traditional game where you're playing it in a normal time frame where you have to stop and start not only once but twice and then you get done at, you know, one o'clock in the morning, local time?
I mean, how much does that affect you the next day and for practices?
Yeah, I think it really did have a bit of an effect the next day.
You could tell they're almost a little bit exhausted, but they kind of turn things back.
I kind of got everyone in and out of the building pretty quickly and
At the end of the day, you just got to move on.
There's nothing you can do about it.
It sounds pretty simple and cliche, but that's really just the truth.
You really just got to wipe it and move on.
It's funny because I was sitting in the locker room and it was probably 12.30 or so when we kind of started again.
And I just felt so sorry for the Nevada team because what were they down?
Two or three touchdowns down.
They probably weren't going to win the game.
Yeah, they asked him to go on.
I was thinking, these guys are going to be getting back to Nevada when the sun's coming up.
So I'm sure that, yeah, they had a bit of a longer night and longer day on Sunday than us.
But yeah, all respect to them for playing out the rest of the game.
Last year, we played at Maryland.
The game finished past midnight, because it was an eight o'clock start, and the game just went forever.
Yeah, it was a four-hour game.
And I remember getting on the bus at around 1am-ish.
I was like, God, we're going to get only walking in my room and the sun's coming up.
Am I even going to be able to sleep?
And that was the case.
I think I'm going to sleep around 5.30am.
So yeah, but it's again, it's all part of playing football and it's really not that bad.
Everyone's doing it together and we all chose to do it.
So you just got to suck it up.
And kind of like I just said, that's all part of it.
I know you said on the first episode that you weren't a fan of ACDC, but in my head, it just kept ringing.
You know, Tori should should be enjoying enjoying the Thunderstruck from ACDC, you know, but that all going on.
And I was like, no, he probably doesn't know that song.
No, no, I don't.
Great, great track.
So the trip is coming up.
You've got to go to Rutgers.
Have you been to Rutgers before?
No, I haven't.
No, I've only the furthest I've been is Maryland last year.
Getting on to
Rival turf getting on to a place you haven't been to before.
What is your game plan?
What do you think about how do you get out there?
Is it just another field?
Just another field.
It's 120 yards long and however many yards wide, they're all the same for me.
And I really, I think that's one thing that I've never really, for me, it might be a little bit harder for the offense and things like that when we travel trying to hear things, but for me, it doesn't really change, you know.
I don't really care whether we're playing at Kinnick or we're playing at Rutgers or we're playing at North Liberty High School.
It's all 100 yards long.
I think the hardest thing is always just trying to figure out the wind.
I love playing at the way games because there's nothing, there's nothing better.
And I think I may, I don't know whether I've said this on the podcast before, my favorite day since I've been here was playing at Iowa State and some people are like, well, better than Penn State.
I'm like, yeah, because there's nothing better than traveling on a way game.
when it's just you guys and kicking someone's ass.
And that was probably the most enjoyable day of one of the most enjoyable days I've had in my life was playing Iowa State because they were expected to win.
There was like all this husband bulls**t going on.
And yeah, we went in there and kicked their butt.
So I love playing away games.
Absolutely love it.
Not necessarily the travel part, but there's nothing better than putting on the white jersey and going out there and doing your thing.
You have a preference as to wearing the black or the white jersey?
I don't really care.
I don't care if I'm wearing a pink jersey or a green jersey.
Yeah,
it would look a little bit different there at Kinnock if you're wearing a pink or a green jersey.
But
yes, yeah, probably.
But no, I couldn't really care less about that.
The thing is, is with the travel and I asked Jordan Bohan in this on season one of the jock to jock podcast, do you pick your spot on the team bus or the team plane?
You know, how do you decide where you sit in those, you know, in all?
I've
got my spot on a bus that I have to kind of sit.
I have to sit in the same spot every time and I'll make sure no one sits next to me because I'm a taller guy.
So I like to spread out.
But in terms of the plane, no, I don't get a choice.
They usually look after me because I've been a taller guy.
I usually get an extra oil spot.
Yeah, that's nice.
But no, it's anti-question.
Don't get a choice.
I'm sure Jordan might on the bus will tank because there's really not as many of them traveling.
Yeah.
But there's probably a couple hundred people traveling for us.
Jordan was saying on his bus, and I don't know obviously a lot more people, he said that like in the back of the bus where he was at, there was some games going on, some card games and stuff like that.
Is there something like that going on with you or because you like to kind of spread out or you kind of hold off on your own?
Yeah, I don't know about any card games on the bus.
Um, everyone's just kind of watching the stuff on their phone.
I like to, um, read, read books, like I'm into reading, so I kind of like doing that.
Yeah, I read a book or watch an episode of something on my phone, but, um, time goes by pretty quickly.
Some guys will nap, honestly.
Um, yeah, but no, no, I haven't really seen any card games going on on the bus.
Anything that you can offer if somebody's wanting to
Read the same thing you're
reading.
I'm reading the psychology of money at the moment, which is good, but I'm a big Stoicism person like Ryan Ryan holiday books.
I don't know whether you know the author Ryan holiday, but he's into the whole Stoicism thing.
And
yeah,
he's actually got a new book coming out next week.
So I'm looking forward to reading that.
Yeah, he's got a lot of books, actually.
One of my favorite books is probably Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday.
Yeah, it just talks about overcoming obstacles and really there's no shortcuts or anything like that and the only way through through an obstacle is just running straight through it really.
How'd you happen upon Ryan Holiday?
So I'd always kind of had a little bit of interest in
how the Stoics went about their lives and things like that.
And he's one of the more popular authors in terms of writing about that sort of philosophy.
And one of my good friends, the partner at the UNLB, he kind of got me into all of that.
And I think a couple of the strange coaches have read it before.
So I kind of talk to them about that too.
Yeah, really, really enjoy reading.
I think it's really good for you.
Do you think that that's helped to shape some of your
Kind of your philosophies about life and and what you're doing with your career here in the in the States
Yes, I think it's more so Because the whole idea of Stalsism and things like that is It's not necessarily how you think what it is, but it's more so how you react to certain situations If if that kind of makes sense.
So there's a little bit of relevance to that in life And and football as well.
So that's really helped me a lot with football as well and
It's funny because I talked to former punter Jason Baker as well.
He's always kind of said, well, punting is, and there's the football, the game of football itself, it goes for three hours and it's all about how can, how can you control your thoughts for a specific period of time?
And that's really probably the definition of mental toughness.
You know, everyone thinks like mental toughness is all this bunch of bullshit that's just like,
Yeah, like, well, I can squat 600 pounds, blah, blah, blah, but no one can really do that.
Yeah, so for me, it's been really beneficial.
And I just enjoy reading.
It's a good escape from things.
And yeah, I just really enjoy it.
It's probably one thing that people probably don't really know about me.
Yeah.
Yeah, really, really enjoy that.
And probably one of my best friends, Charlton, who's the partner at UNLV, he kind of
got me onto that.
So yeah, I really enjoyed that.
Did he go through the same program you did with Chattanooga?
Yes,
he did.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Same year or is he a lot?
Yes.
Yeah.
So yeah, like I said, one of my best friends, we went through Pro-Kick for about a year and then we both moved.
We were on the same plane from Melbourne to Sydney and then we quarantined in Sydney for two weeks and we had rooms
right next to one
another.
So we could talk to one another on the balcony for two weeks and then, yeah, got an Airbnb for a few days and we got out.
Yeah, one of my best friends, one person, if I'm ever struggling with stuff, he's usually the one person I go to outside members of my family.
And you got to a location where, you know, you're in the middle of the Midwest.
He doesn't have to go too far and suddenly there's the the biggest strip.
So he's got a little or some temptation on his side.
Yeah, he says the novelty wore off pretty quickly.
So I don't think he ventures down there too much.
But he's a big UFC fan.
So and that stuff's usually going on over there.
So yeah, he's going on watching that a fair bit, I think.
Is there an equivalent to Vegas in Australia?
No.
Okay.
No, not at all.
No, I couldn't even tell you.
I think Vegas is one of the most interesting places I've ever been.
And to tell you the truth, my offense to anyone that
likes Vegas or is from Vegas.
I don't, I think it's one of the most overrated places I've ever been.
I just don't see what's so exciting about it.
I mean, you can go gamble at Riverside 20 minutes from Iowa City.
So yeah, just they, I would never go to Vegas for the reasons that most people go.
I would really just go there to visit my mate.
Chaz, but yeah, but I guess a little bit overrated, I think.
And there's certainly some interesting characters walking around that joint.
You're not messing around on that.
I mean, you didn't want to get your picture taken with a knockoff Elvis or a. No,
I'll, I'll, I'll respectfully pass on that.
Thank you.
Respectfully pass.
I love it.
All right.
Marshall exchange program.
I highlighted this last week and I thought it would be a topic because.
You've told me that you love Australian chocolate.
You've told me that you're Australian licorice.
You also told me last week that you love Australian coffee.
And I did some research this week and coffee is big business.
And I've been told, or at least I read in my research, that Melbourne is tops for coffee in Australia.
Is that right?
Well,
You're wrong, actually, because it's probably the best in the world if I if I was to say that.
Yeah,
I actually understand.
But I mean, I might be a little biased, but having been to a few countries and experienced different places and different coffees, it's really just hard to be Melbourne.
People think I'm always bragging about Australia.
But really, I'm like, no, there's really just two things that are better coffee and food.
Like there's really not much else to it.
But yeah, coffee.
Yeah, I just love it.
I miss it.
It's funny that as I sit here drinking a Starbucks coffee, but yeah, you know, whatever.
That's one of the things I read is Starbucks is not very prevalent in Australia, correct?
No, I don't even think I've ever been to Starbucks for coffee in Australia ever.
I promise you.
No word of a lie.
There's 20,000 cafes that I read that are in Australia.
Yeah, that'd be better, right?
And these are just some that I read.
So I'm going to need your help on this.
There's flat white, long black and short black.
Can you explain what a flat white is to the audience?
So a flat white I think is, I've never had one actually, but a flat white is black coffee with a dash of milk, I think.
And then long black is
Just straight black coffee and same with short, short black.
Short black is like a little less than long, if that makes sense.
So long black is just a lot of, a lot of black coffee and then short black is a small amount of coffee.
I think I'm usually, honestly, I'm a simple guy.
I'm just a latte with half a sugar.
Thank you.
And that's it,
huh?
Yeah, that's it.
I've never really ventured outside that.
I'm Marco Cappuccino every now and then.
But I'm not, yeah, I'm a pretty simple man.
So of these 20,000 cafes, they were, as I'm doing my research, they were like 17 listed from Australia.
And as you mentioned, Melbourne being the coffee capital of the world.
I got that in there.
There were
five or six of them that were listed.
One in Collingwood, Victoria called Proud Mary.
And then...
three in Melbourne that were listed.
There's a Market Lane coffee in Melbourne.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I haven't been, but I've definitely heard about it.
I haven't been, but I've heard about it.
Okay.
Definitely.
Patricia Coffee Brewers is another one mentioned in
Melbourne.
No, I don't know.
And then this one, I think this one is kind of more of an intricate kind of a hipster type of vibe sensory lab in Melbourne.
No, don't know.
Melbourne's about 45 minutes an hour from me, so I don't venture up that way much.
Okay.
Unless I'm kind of going to an Australian football game, well, there's a reason for me to be up that way.
But really, you can go to a cafe, like there's 20 cafes within a five-minute drive in my house.
So I
wanted
to go.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It is absolutely crazy.
Yeah, coffee is probably the driving force of the economy back home, which I don't know whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, but yeah, it seems to be working a little bit, I think.
You know what?
Within a 10 minute drive, there's probably 50 places, 50 or 60 places you could go for coffee.
You have a favorite?
Well, cafe or coffee in general.
Either.
Please.
This is your show.
Tell me either.
So if I wanted to go,
and get a coffee if I was sitting at my house right now in Melbourne back home I would drive about it's about a five-minute drive and I feel like people are gonna I feel like I'm almost contradicting myself because I tell people they're idiots for drinking not for eating gas station pizza but I actually go to a 7-eleven gas station and get a coffee there.
My
kid you're
not any different than it would here in the States obviously it has to.
I've never had a 7-Eleven coffee here, but it is so good.
And they're really, really popular, honestly, because it's $2 and you probably get like a grande sized coffee for $2 and it's unbelievable.
And my parents are like, they're not coffee snobs or anything like that, but they enjoy coffee.
They'll grab a coffee a day from one or two spots they like.
But yeah, I don't refuse to go to cafes.
Because if I wanted to go to a cafe, I'm probably paying like five bucks for a coffee.
Oh,
wow.
But I actually go to 7-Eleven because I like it more.
Like, I honestly like 7-Eleven coffee more than a normal cafe.
And my parents will be like, why are you going there?
Like, I know it's cheap.
I'm like, no, I know it's cheap, but I actually like it better.
And it just happens to be cheap.
That's funny because you and I have something in common because I love gas station cappuccino.
I know it's just powder.
It's probably straight up sugar, even if you get the sugar free kind, but I just like the taste of it better.
A true cappuccino tastes like frothy water to me.
And I know that that's dumb, but you know, a coffee snob will go gas station coffee.
What are you doing?
Well, we have a kinship in the fact that we both like a gas station coffee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, well, when you, when you venture out to Australia one day,
Yeah, I'll take you to a 7-Eleven gas station and we'll grab a coffee.
And it's funny because every day I'd drive to Prokik to see my coaches.
I'd stop on the way, grab a 7-Eleven coffee, drive my way up to training.
By the time I got there, it was finished.
And on my way home, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna grab another one.
I'll get me to the rest of the day.
And I spent $4 on two coffees rather than $5 on one.
So at the end of the day, who's winning?
It sounds like you are.
Hunting is winning.
That's what the t-shirt says.
Exactly.
Exactly.
What pairs well with a 7-Eleven gas station coffee in Australia?
What goes with it?
Breakfast or otherwise?
Banana bread.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sometimes
I'll get a banana bread.
Yeah.
This is great.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'll probably spend more money on gas driving there than the coffee itself, but it's worth it.
Guys, this Marshall exchange program, the reason that I chose to do this is to really, truly learn when we go to Australia and we visit, we need to know what we're doing.
We started with, don't be afraid of snakes and spiders.
We've talked about going to the pub and what to have a VB.
And now legitimately from Tory himself, he said 7-Eleven gas station coffee in Australia.
Awesome.
I feel like you and I, we can maybe make a little money because I feel like this is becoming quite the educational program or station.
So, you know, maybe we need to start charging listeners a little bit more because we're certainly giving out some, some great advice.
And, you know, if going to school just jump on the drop to drop podcast.
Yes, absolutely.
Instead of calling it the Marshall Exchange program, I can change the name now to Porey's travel tips.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, exactly.
I love it.
I love it.
Anything else you want to add before the Rutgers game as we wrap up the jock to jock podcast today, Tori?
Not, not really football related, but just, yeah, big thanks to all the fans out there that have really made my family feel welcome since they got here.
It means a lot to me.
It means a lot to them.
And yeah, I feel like I said this last week, but they're not here for long.
So it'll be sad when they go and, but yeah, really appreciate everyone's support since they got here.
The only other thing I thought about with your family in
is that both games that they've been to, they've caused the rain to come.
That's one thing that if this weatherman gets it wrong again, and it's raining against Michigan, it'll have made it do it.
You should
probably not go over there and kick him in the ass because that would be a bad thing.
You'd probably come down inside the 20.
Yeah, but I'm really hoping that it is a nice day next week because it's the last game.
They'll probably send me play.
I don't know.
So yeah, hopefully it's nice.
Tori, I appreciate the time that you give to us for the jock to jock podcast, man.
Always a pleasure, Brian.
Thank you.
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